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by **epauley** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:32 am

Perhaps, it is the design of Riffworks and I just never noticed this problem before but I doubt that’s the case.

I occasionally use the “Layer Info” drop-down window to adjust the volume levels or to cut out a bad note within a recorded riff – a really great feature in RWS!

Unfortunately, now after tweaking the volume levels, the levels revert back to the original recorded settings – even when I have saved the recording!?

The levels don’t revert back immediately but sometime afterwards. I have tested this several times and without fail, the levels revert. So, I must reset (redraw using the mouse) the volume levels constantly.

I can’t figure it out and am mystified. Please help! :/

by **gatorjj** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:50 am

The only time I have this issue is when I change ASIO drivers while in a song. Are you doing that?

by **epauley** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:36 am

Yes, that could be the answer!

by **gatorjj** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:51 am

Then don't do that!

It's something I discovered very recently and let the Sonoma guys know about. I often change ASIO's as I have different speakers/monitors on different devices and finally found what I believe to be the cause and effect for the info "info" disappearing. I've been successful since by not changing mid-song.

by **Wedgebill** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:52 pm

Wow, I struggle to come to terms with how many new things I learn about Riffworks by simply reading the help given by other members in the forum. This has got to be the best forum ever. Bravo lads and laddess's.

Best regards,

Uncle Bill.

P.S. I thought the only way to get the bum notes out of my stuff was to get someone else to play the instruments for me !!!!

:lol:

by **Lawless33** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:55 pm

Wedge, now you've got me interested...when you have a "clinker" or "bum note", HOW EXACTLY ARE YOU REMOVING IT??? I didn't think this was possible! Thanks!

Wes

by **epauley** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:57 pm

Lawless33, after recording, click the riff “info” button and a window will drop down. You will see what looks like a graphic chart which displays your recorded notes. Using your mouse, you can draw within that window (a thin line will appear) to adjust the volume.

To eliminate a bum note(s), simply position the mouse and draw the line down to the bottom of the window. This process eliminates sound in that area of the recording – the bum note doesn’t go away but it cannot be heard in the playback.

This function is nicely illustrated in the downloadable RiffWorks PDF manual available under support.

by **gatorjj** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:09 pm

An even cooler trick is to "replace" the bum note (or passage) by crossfading...

by **Lawless33** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:37 pm

Thanks for the tips, guys...I'm going to go back over the "Song Layer" section of the FAQ a few more times and just mess with it when I have the time. GatorJJ...not sure I totally understand what's going on in your graph above. You have a riff open...and it has 3 layers...take 009, 2.1 and 2.2. I see the "crossfade" as you said...the top layer has the volume cut right in the middle...and the bottom layer has the volume brought up to max in the middle. I'm assuming your 2.1 layer was really long and in your 2.2 layer, you waited until the middle of 2.1 and started recording? That probably sounds really stupid, but I haven't messed with the whole "Info" button thing to pull up and make changes to the sound graph.

by **epauley** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:29 am

gator wrote:An even cooler trick is to "replace" the bum note (or passage) by crossfading...

Explain...? :/

Lawless33 wrote:That probably sounds really stupid

Watch it Lawless33! Gator will smell blood in the water and so, you might want to pull up a chair next to the campfire (yes, mixed metaphors). In other words, be prepared for a detailed explanation – gator was meant to be writer of technical manuals – when he not being a Powerpop star!

by **gatorjj** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:44 am

Check the MP3 backing track thread Ed, and if it still doesn't make sense I'll try and explain again, or finally get a little video done on it.

by **epauley** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:48 am

You missed my edited addition above

by **gatorjj** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:40 am

Ed...Ed...Ed....

Gotta watch us Gators, we seem slow but are very very quick and then....SNAP! You're lunch!

Got those monitors yet? lol

by **Lawless33** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:34 pm

gatorjj, the only thing I could see stopping me from using the "crossfade" method that you showed is on that Gary Moore backing track I had you load for me. I don't really wanna mess with recording multiple riffs, so I thought I'd just use the Song Layer and record over that. However, you can't record multiple "layers" that way, right? I was thinking this way was basically a "one shot record" type of deal.

Wes

by **gatorjj** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:36 pm

You absolutely, positively CAN record multiple layers in the SongLayer, just like a riff (24 layers are available in there). Crossfade away!

This doesn't show crossfades specifically, but this is a shot of the songlayer with a whole lot of layers, and some "info" editing on Tried So Hard. Hope this helps!

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