Individual layers starting early or late.

[September]

Anyone have trouble with certain layers sometimes starting early or late? I have a Pentium 4 2 gigahertz. There might be something wrong with the computer because I notice the CPU gets pegged sometimes.

THe problem with the layers not always starting at the right time didn't start until I put about 7 or 8 layers on a top of a song but I wanted to see if anyone is having a similar issue.

[Hayden]

Do you find stopping then starting the riff again corrects the problem? How much ram do you have?

[September]

Yes, most of the time but not all of the time. I'll have to wait until I'm back to check on the ram - I don't remember. Is this an issue you've seen before?

I'm considering a new computer. I'll definitely load it up with ram when I get it.

[Hayden]

I've seen layer sync issues in versions of RiffWorks that haven't been released. In the current version, I see issues with hitting play on the riff and the drums start, but there isn't any audio from the layers. Both are known bugs. I'm curious about your system to see why your particular setup might be causing this bug to appear.

Are you using the most up to date version of RiffWorks?

You can get the updates here for Standard:

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/UpdateRWStandardV2_1.php

Or here for the Line 6 Edition:

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/UpdateRWLine6V2_1.php

[a345stud]

hi hayden
i did not respond earler but i have the exact same issues with my computor
i upgraded to 1 ig memory it was better for a while put my prcessor pegs all the time and tels me often that it is using 800 to 900 mgs.i used to run mechanics 7 seven to clear the memory but my trial period ran out. often my prograhm will crash and tell me uknown error ocuured i've saved some of the crash files but don't know what to do with them.
i'm running the most current version of line 6 rw. i tryed to delete the old version after reading it would not cause problems hoping to clear up drive space. low and behold it took out all my song files even thow they were created by newest version and not even stored in old version. i then had to reload rw 1.1 from line 6 to even get mt new version to be recognised. now 1.1 sys it is over a gig in size twice as big as it should be. heck i just thought it was my computor. i hoped someday to up grade. to make along story short. what september is describing i experiance also. but i have been to busy creating music to mention i fight this evey day. tell i lock up and have to reboot.
don't know if this helps
i'm running a celero 2.1ghz 1 gig memory. the more layers i make the more it hangs up. also happens when i add effects.

[mickeymix]

I find that 2 Gigs of RAM is the new standard with RiffWorks....my 2nd networked computer has this and is used just for recording....1 Gig was fine for version 1 but version 2 ....upgrade to 2 gigs and you should see a huge difference........especially if you only use 1 computer and have a lot of programs leeching off of your RAM... yo Terry get a Pentium 4 if your motherboard is compatible....ditch the Celeron and there alone you will see a huge diff........

[pbbobkanobi]

Mickey and Hayden are so right. 2 gigs of RAM makes it all run like melted butter. You can run 1 gig but you will definately be maxing out your system. The Sonoma guys machines are not incedible hot rods by the way....just ordinary everyday PC's and Mac's as far as I know. RW is designed to run on the "average for today" computer basically. The extra RAM just makes it all run smooother, faster, better of course.

Speed costs money....how fast do you want to go?........

RW is a HUGE memory hog...that's no secret......but so worth it.

(Disclaimer: I have no clue really about the inner workings of these damn machines....this is all just speculation fueled by barley and malt adult beverages and ancient Indian herbal solutions.)

[gatorjj]

I used to see this on my P4 machine, especially when the song is nearly done...when there's a lot of riffs, a lot of layers, and then the effects seem to put it over the processing/memory top. My newer dual-core seems to have a lot more horsepower and I haven't run into the same "out of gas" condition since.

There's a lot of audio processing going on in there, my inclination would be it's just being taxed to the limit!

[Hayden]

Hey A345stud,

There were quite a few improvements made to version 2 that streamlined the graphics and improved performance. Of course, adding another gig of ram would also improve performance. I'm going to have an engineer get back to you about the frustrating process in upgrading you've just described.

Hayden

[camaro24gold]

More RAM always helps. Checking your drive for fragmentation and defragging is a good idea to keep an eye on.
Another thing you might check is to see if there is an update for your bios. I found an update once for my notebook that Dell said help the machine run cooler than the bios I had.

[jamienelson]

Check out this article for some XP tweaking tips. http://members.optushome.com.au/skinah/TweakXP.htm
There are some more here http://www.musicxp.net/links.php

A Celeron Processor will just give you problems when it comes to recording.

I'm running a 2.4GHz P4 with 1.5 GB RAM on a Desktop and having good luck with that system. It is a dedicated recording machine though.
I also have a 2.2 GHz P4 Laptop with 1GB RAM that does a pretty good job.

[Wedgebill]

AMD for me, "Every one's a winner babe that's the truth", sorry, had a gob full of Hot Chocolate whilst writing. Seriously though, all the pc's I've built, both for my business and home use, in recent years have been AMD based. I find their speed specs etc to be more realistic than Intel and seem to be less glitchy when multi-tasking. I'm running latest Riffworks Line 6 version on an AMD Sempron based PC with 1gb ram no problemo. Apart from my Spam, MMMMMMMmmmmm.......Beer and talking b*ll*cks situation !!!!

Uncle Bill

[September]

Hayden, sorry it took me a while to get back to you. I have version 2.1 of the line 6 version of RW 2. I think the issue might be ram. I have only 512.

[Hayden]

That could cause problems. More RAM wouldn't hurt at all. My recommendation for audio computers is always as much RAM as you can afford. When I started doing this stuff, it was $40 a megabyte. Now, $40 will buy you 512mb or so. Definitely 1 gig. More if you can swing it.