Announcing RiffWorker : 1st Public Beta Release

[atalwar]

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Stage II Complete [08/11/07]


Download Url : http://rapidshare.com/files/48347180/intelliRifferSetup.exe

Installation : Please uninstall previous version first.

Features : Many Fixes, New Interface, Batch Processing, Detailed User Manual.



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THE NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED TO "intelliRiffer" and the program will be available with the new name hence forth

The First Public Beta is Ready to Rock.

ANNOUNCEMENT : Name Changed again to intelliRiffer

As you all know the lack of importing wav files or using existing wav file loops is Major Concern for users, so i have developed a Utility to convert wave files to compatible riffs that can be imported.


This is Absolutely Free.i hope riffworks soon adds wav import feature to Riffworks , till then this would help.



Please Give it a Go and let me know if it works.


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Read the incuded Help File for instructions.

important : I have only tested this with line 6 edition 2.10. I am not sure if it can create files compatible with standard edition as i dont have access to that and hence cannot validate compatibility. Nevertheless a new riff should work with standard edition, Just loading riffs might have problems
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Current Limitations :

1. Only 44100 Hz 16 bit wav files supported (you can always convert your mp3 loops to wav using some batch converter


3. Time Signature only of 4/4 currently supported

Features :
1 Create a Riff off a wav file(s) with layer , tempo control , bar length.

2. Open an existing Riff and import a wav into it, or change the file for any layer.

3. All layers by default are named same as the wav file.

4. Riff Title changes to saved riff name. and will show up as the Name in riff works.

5. import Song Layer, and Create a Song Layer from Wav, Great for one Shot Backing Track. or Perhaps to Jam along if you please.



Disclaimer : i Take no responsibility for any Damage this program makes. Save your work and test it out. This program is Not Assotiated with Sonoma Wireworks is any way. Use At Your OWN RISK!



Thx,

Amit

[pbbobkanobi]

I'm there dude...thanks for all your hard work. i will report back.....

OK...downloaded and installed. One too many beers I guess to figure it out on my own. Do you have any help files or a simple walk through? Very impressive programming....all that is lacking is some instruction on how this program works. Thanks again!

[Wedgebill]

What is the reaction of the Sonoma people to this software and the use of names very similar to Riffworks ?

I hope it is not going to upset them, infringe copyrights or start to affect all the excellent work they have done and currently continue doing. I also hope it is not going to affect the excellent relationship between forum members.

I'm very used to being wrong (ask my missus !!!) I hope in having any concerns about this I am wrong again.


Uncle Bill.

[camaro24gold]

What is the reaction of the Sonoma people to this software and the use of names very similar to Riffworks ?

I hope it is not going to upset them, infringe copyrights

As a free utility that is going to generate no revenues, the copyright issue "might" not be too much of an issue. However I think I would use a different title myself....one pertaining more to the authors name rather than the application it is designed to be use with.
I'm pretty sure regardless or not of it being a free utility; if it was called MOTUworks or CakewalkHelper; you would probably get a Cease and Desist Notice from some lawyer.

But what do I know.....I'm just a Spamateer

[scott]

I think it will be more of an issue for SWW if it impacts on their support resources. People may turn to them for solutions if RiffWorker creates problems with RiffWorks.

[GuitarSlinger]

This is akin to game modding, which under most circumstances is perfectly acceptable. But you don't normally post about it on the developers website, hehe. The fact is some companies won't like you modding their programs. Line 6 was actually really cool about the hotkey tone switcher/loader mods that were released.

I will say this, if your gonna try it, don't simply replace the exe file. BACK UP, the other one and don't loose it. At some point your gonna want to put it back. Especially if you have problems or need updates.

[atalwar]

I Wasn't Aware of any Copyright issues the name might arise, if anyone has any objection or feel it a violation, all needs to be done is to inform me and i will change it.

My Intention is was just to build a simple tool to help me better make use of riffworks.

Next Update the Name would be Changed to Something Not Assotiated with Anyone to avoid me stepping on someones foot accidently.

Thank you,

Amit

[blue4u]

Just keep it clear that the product is not affiliated in any way with Sonoma, has no support *use at your own risk!* and is meant to enhance or, supplement RiffWorks not replace it. Also, the backup idea mentioned above is crucial to point out.

I think you need to set up a simple web page explaining these things along with a few basic instructions on how to use it or, back out of it if there are problems. If you've worked this far to create it I'm sure a simple web page isn't going to be too much to ask? Someone here might even build and host it for you!

Also, if *when* Sonoma comes out with their own update make sure you pull it as that will cause confusion with users.

Just some thoughts for us to consider Thanks for the innovation and contribution in any case. If I were Sonoma I would be offering you a job if this patch actually works!

Rich

[michelle]

Interesting program idea. We'll take a look at it. We do need to ask you to to not use the full "RiffWorks" word in the name of it because of trademark infringement, but Riff something else would be fine. Also Gator's advice is good to follow.

Seriously, please send a resume to jobs@sonomawireworks.com and copy me at michelle@sonomawireworks.com.

Thanks,
Michelle

[gatorjj]

Also Gator's advice is good to follow.

I'm never short of long-winded advice, but I think Michelle meant somebody else! My resume's on the way too Michelle

[atalwar]

This is not a Patch, This does not alter/corrupt or even touch your riffworks installation / /riffworks songs in any way.

Please consider it as a third party application like an audio editor.

This program only facilitates creating of riff files that can be imported in riffworks by riffworks.


It Strictly Works with Exported Riffs or Creating Riffs from Scratch.

It should not Alter your source Wav Files unless you overwrite them by exporting to same folder as source which you should never do.

It Copies the Files to it's local temp directory and then perfomes operations on them.

What this Program does is quite a simple thing which i think should not be a major deal for sonama programmers to incorporate into the main program for next version.

How it works :

Creating New
1. Take a pcm Wave file convert it into a raw pcm file by stripping the WAV RIFF header (information chunks) (using riffstrip.exe)
2. rename the file to whatever is required/set for layer with the extention .psi
3. parse the .rif file from the rwr archive and make the desired changes. like adding new layers etc
4. pack the converted files as an archive and save as rwr riff file.

Loading the Riff :
1. Open the rwr archive, extract the contents into temp folder
2. convert all psi raw into wav using sox (16 bit signed, 44100 Hz)
3. Parse the rif file and update the layers and point to new converted wav files for extraction and playback preview.

4. user makes desired changes and appropriate conversions are made to rif file
5 . on saving archive is consolodated again and any unchanged source psi files are used to avoid any non required conversion.
6 file is packed back into rwr archive riff file ready to be imported back.

The Parsing Routine is hardcoded to the current version of riffworks line6 edition 2.10 type rif file. and any other versions of riffworks changes might require change the code to parse these files.

Perhaps Sonama Programmers can write better code as they have access to .rif file object model and hence make wav import really simple by click of a button, and doing all this on the fly.

I just had to make this as i like to jam along with tracks and setting up ableton live takes quite a bit of time each time.

my Usage workflow.
wav : ( as i have made a lot of small fragment recordings in abletom live over the years that i use in songs etc)

Load your track or loop into abelton live.

Adjust stretch etc to match the tempo of project.
move your audio layer into track editor and set desired length for loops. ex i use 8 bar loops mostly. add any bass layer/synth layer using vsti synh if need be.

set the loop markers for entie segment render as a wav.

load into some audio editor that alows batch export ad auto markers based on temp.
eg sound forge. i use automarkers base on temp and then batch export all loops as seperate wav files.

then i load these all wav files in intelliriffer, and create a multi layer riff file and save.

import into riffworks and make copies of the imported riff, remove or mute unwanted layers in each riff copy and lay down your track.

this just a tool and each might have different reason to import wave file , but that is a much needed functionality for any given audio app in this age.

[atalwar]

Interesting program idea. We'll take a look at it. We do need to ask you to to not use the full "RiffWorks" word in the name of it because of trademark infringement, but Riff something else would be fine. Also Gator's advice is good to follow.

Seriously, please send a resume to jobs@sonomawireworks.com and copy me at michelle@sonomawireworks.com.

Thanks,
Michelle

I defnitely would send in my resume if i had one , (hmm to think on it, i havent had any for almost 9 years now)

[gatorjj]

Amit, I'm getting issues trying to install the beta (getting a "Visual Basic 6.0 files are not current" when I install, and then a runtime exception when I try to run it). Is there something additional I need to do the install?

FWIW I think it's a great little utility if it gets to working okay. I have been doing the same thing manually in some projects to do things like pulling vocals out for pitch correction, fixing muted notes in an audio editor etc. and put 'em back into RiffWorks for the client. Hopefully this will save some time!

I'd be glad to host the download for the time being if you'd like. Just drop me a line at jj@gator-studios.com and we'll get a page set up.

[atalwar]

gatorjj ,
What Os are you using, Vista has some compatibility issues with visual baic 6 runtimes i think and you need to install as admin.

After installation, make sure you run the ActiveXZip to install require components. before starting the program.

If still does not install , then you mgiht be missing some vb6 runtimes that can be installed from web, i'll see if i can find then as soon as i can know your environment.

Also download the latest version, intelliriffer.exe from the link.

Link to vb6 Runtime installer : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bf9a24f9-b5c5-48f4-8edd-cdf2d29a79d5&displaylang=en

[gatorjj]

Got it now Amit, I missed the ActiveXZip step. I'm using XP.