panning

[dennisandcheryl]

how come when i try to pan completly left or right it sounds crackly...is that just the way it is .i can only pan about 50 %or else like i said it gets all broken up..second quetion would you get a better finished product with a better sound card and if so what would i be looking for something for 24 bit recording

[blue4u]

This certainly sounds related to the sound card itself. I would say it's a conflict with the drivers (software) you are using to run your sound card or, the latency is set too low. Try playing with the latency setting and see if that gets rid of the crackling. PreSonus seems to make nice quality audio interfaces. They sell a couple of them here: http://www.sonomawireworks.com/store/index.php?manufacturers_id=9&main_page=index

If you do get one of these, make sure you have a firewire connection on your computer. Otherwise, you can buy an external firewire card. The make audio interfaces with usb as well. How much do you want to spend and how many inputs are you looking for? 24 bit is pretty standard these days so you won't have much trouble finding that. Most of the newer sound cards are going to sound pretty decent as long as they are designed for recording audio. Don't get a consumer brand sound card like Sound Blaster or something similar. These are designed for multimedia and probably won't have the drivers (ASIO) that you need.

Rich

[GuitarSlinger]

It also kinda sounds like if you try to hard pan a track with stereo effects. The effects get mushed into mono and it can sound like garbage.

[strychninekid]

First make sure your metter isn't pegging out on playback as well. i have had some people have similar problems recording in too high of volume.
Just a thought

[epauley]

dennisandcheryl,
Can you tell us a bit about your current setup? What kind of interface are you using, version of RiffWorks software (Standard, Line 6), etc.?

[dennisandcheryl]

im using a pod xtl with the line 6 edition.I just dont undersatnd why i could pan 50% and any more it breaks up but thats not my only issue, i got metal shop and bass expansion pack and with both of them there is recording issues aswell the metal shop allways sounds like im using compresion and the bass x is always muddy could this all be because of a crappy sound card (sound max)or could it be i tune my guitars to low(cgcfad) and the signal is just getting broken up.. i am so new to this recording game ,never recorded a thing until i got riffworks about a year ago.i use to record using head phones but now i am running a cable from the head phone jach on the pod into line in on the sound card

hopr someone can help

dennis

[atalwar]

I Use podxtl with RW without any problems. and might just not be a soundcard problem as your pod is acting as your soundcard (ASIO interface with USB drivers) RW line 6 edition is hard wired that way.

I can work pretty well at the lowest setting possible without any glitches, on using rewire i have to increase latency a bit.

Does everything else play ok via your pod? like playing a audio in gearbox etc (altough it uses podxt as direct sound device) . It just might be your driver issue or something.

Also what is your cpu config as lower latecy does require a fast cpu and yours just might not be keeping up with the pace. try to increase the latency to around 100 msec (un-useable though) and then check and then try to tweak it to lower numbers.

also chek your pod levels it just might be your pod output is over driving your final audio output source (amp or audio cable back into soundcard), you might have not been noticing that in 50% pan due to frequency cancellations happeing due to that.

(btw i also have a soundmax onboard souncard and another creative card).

this is my setup maybe you wanna give that a try.

soundmax S/C audio out > pod cd in (my pod is always connected to pc).

pod output to my stereo switch (to select my main amp or alternate amp you can omit this) > the line in of amp.

regards,
Amit

[atalwar]

now i am running a cable from the head phone jach on the pod into line in on the sound card

dennis

Somhow ,missed this in your post above.

it's not recommned to be done like this. Use the main line out of your pod and not the headphone.

Keep headphone out for just heapdphones (as headphone output is amplified to drive the headpone driver and is not a line level signal).

Regards,
Amit

[gatorjj]

If you could, plug some headphones direct into the XTLive and let us know if it's still crackly. At least that might help narrow down where the problem is.

J.J.

[dennisandcheryl]

ya i thought of that to so i tried the headphones into the pod and the same thing happened.Then i opened gearbox and moved the left right slider at the top,
same thing.The only time it isn't crackly is when i open volume control on the computer,i can pan all the way and its fine.

[gatorjj]

Dennis let's dig a bit deeper. Does it do this when you are recording or playing back in RiffWorks? Or both? Does it happen if you are just playing through the XTLive without RiffWorks running? If you mix to wav or ogg does the crackling appear?

Sorry for so many questions, hopefully we can narrow down where the problem is and find the solution!

[atalwar]

ya i thought of that to so i tried the headphones into the pod and the same thing happened.Then i opened gearbox and moved the left right slider at the top,
same thing.The only time it isn't crackly is when i open volume control on the computer,i can pan all the way and its fine.

Since you can hear same crackling on headphones too, hence your sound card can be taken out of the equation. (your soundcard has nothing to do with the current problem as audio is already crackling before reaching sound card input stage).

You problem seems to be originating at the input end (audio/asio driver latency etc) or in podxtl itself (very unlikely but still possible).

[dennisandcheryl]

so heres how it is if i record with headphones into pod it will pan all the way left and right..once i take them out back to the crackle.so its gotta be the way i'm hooking it up to the comp then?but if i dont use the pods headphone out into my line in on the soundcard i can't hear anything

[atalwar]

i am assuming that you are just using your soundcard to listen to output from pod via speakers connected to soundcard.

try this and see if this configuraion works. take the speaker plug/jack out of your soundcard output and use that plug in pod so your pod goes straight to the speaker/amplifier.

if you dont get crackling, then its either the cable that is taking pod output and sending to your soundcard or something in your soundcard not liking the line input..

you can maybe try souncdard speaker out(audio output) into pod cd in (a small headphone type socket in back of pod xtl. and have pod headphone/line out output into your amplifier / amplified speakers. (pod acting as a virtual mixer for RW AND any other pc sounds from your computer).

[dennisandcheryl]

oh yeah!you guys are awsome ..i hook her up the way you said (atalwar)and everything is fine,now was that my problem then was just the way it was hook up ..even better i get to use my guitar amp that i have'nt used since riffworks took over my life.one more thing will my anp give me a flater response ,i went from pod head phone jack to amps return so does'nt that cancell out the amp eq

thanks guys