Recording

[SonomaPlayerD]

The problem that I am having is that when I'm recording my little jams and I stop using my guitar it continues playing on it's own. What is the reason for this? All I'm doing is trying to record a riff and then as I'm playing it's already playing the stuff previously recorded. The reason I noticed this is that I would sometimes pause between riffs and I would hear the guitar still playing previously recorded tunes WHY??? Also I would like to play the riff's or record them and when I play them back I would like to play each one as a song more smoothly or just plain transition into each one better without a skip/pause or delay. How can I do this??? All your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[ShredRex]

It is loop based recording, so if you do not want the previously recorded layer to play back, you must hit the auto mute button. The transitions are a timing thing for the most part....and do take some time to get them seemless. Different people have different mthods of recording to enusre smooth flow....but I find that recording the same layer twice in sucession and taking the better of the two flow wise works best.

[scott]

Hi David,
Welcome to the RiffWorks forum!

The problem that I am having is that when I'm recording my little jams and I stop using my guitar it continues playing on it's own. What is the reason for this? All I'm doing is trying to record a riff and then as I'm playing it's already playing the stuff previously recorded. The reason I noticed this is that I would sometimes pause between riffs and I would hear the guitar still playing previously recorded tunes

When you record a 'riff', the default setting is for RW to loop the riff until you stop it manually. It allows you to add new layers and build them up without having to stop and start things. When you're 'in the groove' the last thing you want is to keep pausing that killer solo!
However, for those, like yourself, who want to hear what you've done after just one run through of a riff, there's the "single shot record" button on the left of the "Riff Recorder" panel. Press this and RW will stop after having played through a riff just once.
The 'Auto Mute' button keeps the 'looping' function going but will silence each new layer as the riff ends and restarts.

I would like to play the riff's or record them and when I play them back I would like to play each one as a song more smoothly or just plain transition into each one better without a skip/pause or delay. How can I do this??? All your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

RiffWorks allows you to break songs down in to 'chunks' (like 'Intro', 'verse1', 'chorus', 'bridge' etc.) which are called 'Riffs'. You can join 'riffs' together by dragging the 'riffs' in to the song line. This will join them together for you in a more continuous flow.
You can actually record over the join in between two riffs using the "Lead In" function or record over a whole song's worth of riffs using the "Song Layer" - great for vocals where breathing and phrasing don't always fit perfectly in a single riff.

If you've any more questions, just ask. We're a helpful bunch!!

If you haven't already done so, check out the manual here.

[SonomaPlayerD]

Guys I really appreciate your help with this and I will try this on the upcoming weekend. I have read more stuff just in case on the forums as it is full info that could be usefull in the future. Thanks again:cool:

[beersnob]

I had some of the same questions not to long ago as well. Here is the thread
http://www.sonomawireworks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3976 figured I would point you to it since they gave me some good info there, cheers.
M

[fooks]

lead in button!? holy crap! didn't know that!

[scott]

The 'Lead In' function has been in RW from the start. The 'SongLayer' was brought in at the request of many of the users of version 1.
Here's the extract from the manual ...

LEAD IN allows you to get a two bar count-in before you start recording.
This can help you get into the groove. There are five different Lead In settings to choose from: None, Metronome, Drummer Part, Drummer Count, and Riff.
None — This is the default setting. There won’t be any Lead In when None is selected.
Metronome — This will play two bars of the METRONOME sound selected
under BACKUPS. Even if METRONOME is not active under BACKUPS,
the Metronome will still play during the Lead In when Metronome is
selected from the Lead In menu.
Drummer Part —This will play two bars of the current DRUMMER selected
under BACKUPS. Like the Metronome setting, even if the DRUMMER
is not active under BACKUPS, it will still play during the Lead In when it is selected from the Lead In menu.
Drummer Count — Some of the Instant Drummer sessions have a part
labeled Count-In. When you select Drummer Count from the Lead In menu, the Drummer Count-In part will play during the Lead In.
Riff — Under the LEAD IN section of the Riff Recorder, you have the option of selecting any one of your Riffs as a LEAD IN. When you select a Riff as a LEAD IN, you will be able to record a layer on that Riff before that Riff Recorder switches over to your current active Riff.This is very useful if you want to record a few pickup notes from one section to another. It will make your transitions much more seamless.
The Lead In menu will continue to expand as more and more Riffs are added to the song.

[fooks]

Riff — Under the LEAD IN section of the Riff Recorder, you have the option of selecting any one of your Riffs as a LEAD IN. When you select a Riff as a LEAD IN, you will be able to record a layer on that Riff before that Riff Recorder switches over to your current active Riff.This is very useful if you want to record a few pickup notes from one section to another. It will make your transitions much more seamless.
The Lead In menu will continue to expand as more and more Riffs are added to the song.

i read it and have seen the lead in menu but still don't get it.
how can that be if you have the whole song in the song line? i think i have to think more. doh! it hurts!
this thing will replace the song layer for glue?(so to speak)
ok, i think i am thinking of something else. i use the lead in all the time in metronome mode for redoing individual riffs etc.

never mind, i get it now. lol. sorry! i thought that you use that when you have 2 riffs that don't quite match up coz they were 2 layers apart and instead of using the song layer for 1-2 bars, that would do it somehow.
right?
but the more i read it and think about it, i think it can be done! especially for vocals!
cool, thanks alot scott!!!
i'm a throughly dangerous man now.

[scott]

I use the 'Lead in' more for instruments where, for example, you want to hold a riff slightly longer than the length of one riff or you want a bass slide leading in to a main riff.
The 'Lead in' only works for two riffs (usually adjacent to one another in the song line) whereas the 'SongLayer' lets you record across all riffs and all joins for as long or as short a time as you want. I use the 'SongLayers' almost always for vocals, bvox and anything that doesn't fall in to the 'repeat per riff' category.
Glad you're up to speed.

[CurrDawg]

I've been looking for the answer to this question ever since I bought v.1
How do I record a lengthy solo across all or most of the riffs that are layed out in my song? I am finding out from the answers that "SongLayers" is the way. My problem now is that it doesn't exist in v.1...another reason to crossgrade to Sonoma RiffWorks standard. Is this correct?

[scott]

The 'SongLayer' was only part of the upgrade from v1 to v2 (Standard) - so you're right ... just another reason to upgrade.

[Wedgebill]

Upgrade, Upgrade, Upgrade, you won't look back, you'll just become addicted

[CurrDawg]

Awesome! I have been trying to figure it out for some time because the majority of music I make is instrumental (suck at singing).

Everybody here is awesome! Quick and helpful responses...unlike Line 6!

CurrDawg

[Wedgebill]

If you have the line6 version, make sure you email Sonoma and ask for the Crossgrade rather than Upgrade. I think it'll set you back $69. There's some instructions on what to do to achieve it that's accesssible from the home page, in the manual or FAQ, I think they ask for a screenshot of the details from your Line6 Monkey, just to prove you own it maybe.


Good luck mate.

[randy]

If you have the line6 version, make sure you email Sonoma and ask for the Crossgrade rather than Upgrade. I think it'll set you back $69. There's some instructions on what to do to achieve it that's accesssible from the home page, in the manual or FAQ, I think they ask for a screenshot of the details from your Line6 Monkey, just to prove you own it maybe.
Good luck mate.

Crossgrade and upgrade are really the same thing. There aren't two options. If you crossgrade from V1 to RiffWorks Standard, the cost is $69. If you crossgrade from V1 to RiffWorks V2 Line 6 Edition, the cost is $29.