Gearbox plug-in with Riffworks

[Yacce]

Hey ! Got myself a Gearbox VST Plug-in, and i'm asking how to use it with Riffworks and get the most of it... Any users here ?

[Mozzarello]

Hi there.

Did you get the Silver or Gold Bundle? (Bundle = includes the Toneport DI)


or

Did you get just the download? (just download and "install on your existing line6 hardware")

Please specify how you are using the plugin, what line6 HW you've got if you got one.

Here are some instructions, not full, just the ones I know, coz I've got myself a question.

For Bundle versions (with a hardware or dongle - called Toneport DI)

1) You need the "Dongle" connected (any piece of hardware where the plugin is installed)

2) When you activate the Line 6 Gearbox plugin in the Monkey (check if it's installed by looking at the tab "Optional software or Optional Add ons" (can't recall well now) and it has to be checked and in green, if the gearbox Plugin is checked, great, no more stuff to do here. Otherwise, you need to activate the plugin via Monkey.

3) Open Riffworks, and at the bottom of the window, "deselect" the button "Hardware" (it must go off, no red light" and activate the button (right below the button hardware) "Software" (it must be highlited in red, as a led; which is on)

4) Go to where it says "AMP" and click the the arrow (triangle) pointing down, you'll see Amplitube (if you have installed) and "Other" or it might say "Gearbox", Go to Other and select Gearbox Stereo

Now you're good to go. It's the same procedure that you do when you want to use Amplitube Live (or LE) and/or any VST that you might have installed.

Notes:

- Gearbox Plugin is used the EXACT same way as Gearbox Standalone, therefore I gave you instructions to make it work, rather than who you can use it, mostly because it's up to the taste of the VST owner. For more info using Gearbox, you should read Line'6 Gearbox Manual where you can download directly from Line6.

- Pay attention where is you "plugin path", when you select the software button (after deselecting the hardware button" and clicking on the arrow (triangle pointing down) on the AMP button, you should see a text that says "select pluging path", look at it and see if the Gearbox DLL is there - there is usually a folder that says Line6 or Gearbox, and within the folder you have to see:

Gearbox Stereo.dll
Gearbox Mono.dll
Gearbox don't remember .dll

Now you just have to select your amp, your effects, and you're ready to have fun, just record, remember that by selecting the "software" button, you can tweak the Gain knob in that section so you have all balanced.

What I'm not quite sure, is, if you are able to record a DRY guitar (no effects, no amps, nothing) and then select the Plugin (VST) for mixing/editing the track(s).

If someone could help me out on that question, I'd really appreciate it, for instance, on Reaper you can record a Dry guitar, then press the "FX" button, select your plugin and add whatever you want (post mixing/post mastering), I'm not sure, or I couldn't find a way to do the same with Riffworks, I only can use the Plugin as a Pre (no dry instruments, for modifying it later)

Riffworks and Gearbox get along very well, I've got the Gold Bundle and it's a non-stop options to choose from, Silver is still good, has great amps as well, it only depends on what kind of amps and Fx's you are looking for - that Riffworks does not have but are really good! - (For instance, reverse delay and the Synths are quite amusing for doing strange noises)

Have fun, if you have further questions, people here are happy to answer.

Cheers,

Paul

[Yacce]

Well it's "just" the download - so it's like the Silver bundle (?) in my POD XTL. I've got all the goodies in my XTL - am i having it al then i guess ?

[Mozzarello]

Well it's "just" the download - so it's like the Silver bundle (?) in my POD XTL. I've got all the goodies in my XTL - am i having it al then i guess ?

Well, I'm no Line6 HW expert but as far as I understood:


The "Gearbox Standalone" is a Standalone software that comes by default with Guitarport & Toneport and of course you can use it with POD's with USB ports.

now, just Talking about the POD XTL:

- If you've got the XTL, therefore you have the whole amps from "Gearbox Silver" (downloadable) + All guitar model packs + all FX pack + Mic amps, you don't have:

Bass expansion Pack

Sum effects missing (i see 3 less than the X3, maybe they're mic effects)

Probably Vocal/Mic/Pre Amps

Now, you do please, do sum work, and read a little bit around here:

http://www.line6.com/pod/compare.html


The Gearbox "Silver" Plugin is considered as the Gearbox Silver "Standalone"; but with a Plugin feature, which you can use it in your favorite - most user friendly - with great features - great customer support, DAW; for instance RiffWorks or any other such as cubase, nuendo, sonar, reaper.

I dunno if you understand the functionality of a Plugin, but is a VST (Vangala Sumburus Tennophobis -> I really don't know what is "VST" acronym...) imagine a "virtual amp for your Recording software"

Well, for knowing if you can use the same amps from the XTL as a VST Plugin, my wild guess is Yes, that's what I've understood:

Now, please work again, and read the FAQ

http://www.line6.com/gearbox_plugin/faq.html

A little help:

Q: I already own a POD® XT, TonePort, or GuitarPort® device. Can I use its models as a plug-in without purchasing the Silver or Gold bundle in a store?

You can purchase “Plug-in functionality” for TonePort UX1 / UX2 / KB37, PODXT bean / Pro / Live, or GuitarPort. The GearBox™ Plug-In Add-On gives you plug-in operation with the same model set as GearBox Plug-in Silver Bundle, plus any additional models that are standard features of your hardware, and any additional Models you've added on. GearBox Plug-In supports RTAS / AU (Mac®) and RTAS / VST (PC) Plug-In formats and requires you to have your plug-in-activated Line 6 hardware connected via USB. Download/Installation instructions will be emailed to you upon completion of your purchase. You can purchase "Plug-in functionality" for your Line 6 device here: http://www.line6.com/store/storefront.html?categoryID=5

Further than that, is just re-reading above how to host a VST on Riffworks, and further deeper inquires probably will get faster and more focused ath their support forum: http://line6.com/support/index.jspa

Happy Riffing and Sharing

Paul

[Yacce]

So there is a topic what says RW Line 6 Edition doesn't support Gearbox Plug-In ?
Is this true ?

[mickeymix]

Line 6 GearBox plug-in is just that ....a VST "Plug-In"and the Line 6 version does NOT support VST plug-ins .............only RiffWorks "Standard" does that..... and WELL worth the upgrade price of $29.00

[Yacce]

Kinda ridicilous that L6 software doesn't support L6 software... Well it's not very expensive - One dollar vs. Euro Too bad i didn't get this standard version in first place...

[blue4u]

Yeah, we went round and round a long while back on the Line 6 forums about this! They have a strange pricing structure over there. I'm just glad Sonoma is on their own now A few of us are not to fond of the way Line 6 does business....They could take a lesson from Sonoma Wireworks!!!

[mickeymix]

Just ask the dude (JForton) on RiffWorld whose Bass players PodXT doesn't work with the Line 6 version of RiffWorks!

[camaro24gold]

Kinda ridicilous that L6 software doesn't support L6 software... Well it's not very expensive - One dollar vs. Euro Too bad i didn't get this standard version in first place...

I don't think Line 6 has anything to do with the development of RiffWorks software and therefore unfair to accuse them of it being their fault that the "Line 6" edition doesn't support VSTs
Originally RiffWorks was tied strictly to Line 6 hardware and during that period there was no support for VSTs at all. It wasn't until Sonoma made the decision to keep a Line 6 version (thus not completely cutting ties with Line 6) and a separate and little more expensive version called RW Standard.
Also GearBox VSTs wasn't developed/released until later, after RiffWorks Version II.

If anything...maybe it was a lack of communication between the 2 independent software companies.