Rewire fun

[pooterpatty]

Cool, thanks Jamie. I looked all over their site for something I could download to try out, don't know how I missed that. I'm downloading now and hopefully will have some time to try it out later tonight.

[Charvelguy]

woo hoo, good thing for widescreens, now I know what to do with mine!
That is a cool shot. So, are you creating a lone drum groove soley through Jamstix? or are you adding additional parts/grooves and rewiring those in via Jamstix?

I 'm just wondering how this is laid out as I see the parallel between the song line in RW and the song arranger in the rewired groove mixer.

Looks complicated tho with three programs running. When you hit play/record on RW2, it works as a master trigger for all programs so they all sync up at the same time?

[davenz]

I wonder if they'd send me a download if I told them I was some type of celebrity.

I'm sure they would. Worth a shot anyway...

Dave.

[camaro24gold]

I love ReWire......I don't like being constricted to just "one" software program.....I like to mix them up as much as possible as so I don't fall into "one" particular sound and such.
Just my way of approaching things and of course we are all different with our music.
One thing about using Reason is that the REX players alone are like 10 to 20 times more versatile than the ones in RW.

[dyonisos]

woo hoo, good thing for widescreens, now I know what to do with mine!
That is a cool shot. So, are you creating a lone drum groove soley through Jamstix? or are you adding additional parts/grooves and rewiring those in via Jamstix?

I 'm just wondering how this is laid out as I see the parallel between the song line in RW and the song arranger in the rewired groove mixer.

Looks complicated tho with three programs running. When you hit play/record on RW2, it works as a master trigger for all programs so they all sync up at the same time?

Yes, you've got it right. The song arrangement is mirrored in both Kinetic and Jamstix. RW is the master trigger. It starts Kinetic, which has "grooves" that match the length of the "riffs" in the RW song. For example, if a riff is 4 measures long I'll create a groove that is 4 measures long. Once they're all created I drag the grooves down to the Kinetic "song arranger" in the same order they are in RW. It's then super easy to lock each riff in RW to a groove in Kinetic. One quick click and drag of the mouse to move the loop brackets over the desired groove in the song arranger grid. The loop points automatically adjust to the length of the RW riff. When I'm done setting one riff/groove I click on the next riff in RW and repeat, until all of the riffs have been assigned. If you move the Riffs around in the RW song arranger grid, the grooves in Kinetic stay locked to the riff they were assigned to. As such, it doesn't really matter what order the grooves are arranged in the Kinetic song arranger. The grooves all follow the riff they were assigned to.

In Jamstix, I've also set up "parts" (Jamstix's equivelant of "riff" or "groove") which also mirror the riffs in RW. Same length in measures. Jamstix follows the song arranger in Kinetic, which is following RW.

I can also step or live record keyboard parts in the various Kinetic grooves. Cool thing there is you can have up to 16 channels of stuff going on in Kinetic. Each channel has its own pattern that can be edited. I always devote one of these channels to Jamstix2. I rarely use more than three or so of the 16 available.

[pooterpatty]

I messed around with DrumCore LT last night, still fingering out how to use it. I was able to create a beat and export it to a REX file that I could use in RW, but I still can't finger out how to have RW "record" the beats I make in Drumcore on the fly, without having to export to REX. I also wasn't able to figure out how to make a 3-bar beat with a 1-bar fill at the end. Seems you can have either/or, but not both. The two programs are synching up, but it seems like whenever you click on something in Drumcore, something starts playing (and of course since both programs are synched via Rewire, both transports start playing, which gets annoying after a while).

[camaro24gold]

I also wasn't able to figure out how to make a 3-bar beat with a 1-bar fill at the end. Seems you can have either/or, but not both.

Pooter....I am not familiar with DrumCore but can't you make one Riff in RW the 3-bar and then another the 1-bar. In ReWire that I have used you then line up the loop area of the slave with the particular Riff playing in RW. In Reason ya have to drag the loop bar to the particular spot/measures you want to line up with RWs Riff.
After this you really don't record to a layer but could do a mix to Riff to get it in a layer.

[pooterpatty]

camaro, most of what you said just went right over my head

Sure, I guess I could make the 3-bar beat and the 1-bar fill separate riffs in RW, but that kinda seems like the long way around the block, not to mention the fact that it messes with the flow of a song, having to record one guitar riff over 2 separate riffs in RW just to be able to include a simple fill at the end. I've done that in songs I've recorded, and I hate having to work that way.

I find it hard to believe that the people who coded Drumcore didn't imagine that the people who use their software might want to make a 4-bar beat with a fill at the end - seems a pretty natural thang to me. I get the feeling that it can be done, I just don't know how to do it.

Maybe Jamie can chime in on this, as he seems to have used Drumcore.

[camaro24gold]

All I am saying is if you had those two 3 & 1 bars riffs set up, just "mix to riff" then it would become one Riff (as a recorded layer of drums). Yeah....I know it's a bit of fumbling about but if you're sure that the drum pattern is what you want then ya would have a solid swipe with the guitar.

[jamienelson]

Sorry Pooter,

About all I did was figure out how to download it

[Wedgebill]

Hello sailor, I think Mickey has downloaded a lot of hardcore, would that help ???

[atalwar]

Directly from Drumcore i doubt is possible at all as drumcore is more or less a sample/loop player with no inbuilt sequencer. so you would definitely need a simple sequencer as a rewire slave to rw to get that into RW. The last time i tried reaper with RW, all the Hell broke loose as if i commited some SIN of the absolute order.

Using drumcore and other such apps is gonna be hard task untill we get native wave import support in RW.

[Charvelguy]

Thanks for following up on that Dan.

[pooterpatty]

c'est la vie.

[blue4u]

Directly from Drumcore i doubt is possible at all as drumcore is more or less a sample/loop player with no inbuilt sequencer. so you would definitely need a simple sequencer as a rewire slave to rw to get that into RW. The last time i tried reaper with RW, all the Hell broke loose as if i commited some SIN of the absolute order.

Using drumcore and other such apps is gonna be hard task untill we get native wave import support in RW.

TRUE VST and VSTi support would just help out a WHOLE bunch as well