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Postby chrismeyer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:48 pm

OK I am new to Riffworks Standard. I can work everything out except what I want to do is put one riff on top of another so you can hear then at the same time. For example, I lay down a funk guitar piece with drums and bass, stick it on the song line. OK I am fine up to there, but I want to record a little melody riff, so I do that. No Problem.

Now!! I want to drop that riff over the top of the of the funk riff, say every 2 bars, but I cannot drop it on the song line because it just wedges in between the other riffs, not over the top.

I have noticed in a a picture in the manual that you can put the riff bricks in the same column. i.e on top of each other in the riff builder section as opposed to next to each other' but this does not seem to make them play together in the song line.

Help please?
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Postby gatorjj » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:43 pm

RiffWorks won't allow you to "stack" riffs in the songlayer. The picture you're talking about sounds like where the riffs are gathered, but they don't play from this area.

There is the SongLayer, which is a big long riff that lays over whatever you put in the songbar. You can record 24 layers in there that go across the song. It won't let you drag other riffs into it like I think you're trying to do though.

Hope that helps,

J.J.
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Postby JohnN » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:43 pm

I don't think you can do that. At least, I can't.

What you could try is to mix the riff that you want to add on top of several other riffs to a wav file.

Then you could add it back in to each riff via a VST mp3/wav player or via rewire using another program - like reaper.

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Postby chrismeyer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:52 pm

Thanks guys, I understand the Song Layer system, but I thought it would be logical to have all guitar parts layed down and then stack them how I want, say for a big ending where several riffs all come in for the final part of a chorus. I think what I need to be doing is the following:

Record riff1, duplicate it and put another layer on top. Duplicate that and put my other guitar part on top etc, so each part is is almost cut and pasted to make the various "stacked" parts that I may want to use.

But this seems very clumsy when you consider multi layering loops has been a basic part of computer recording since the beginning.

Do I make sense?
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Postby chrismeyer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:53 pm

PS. Listen to Cocaine by Eric Clapton. That is the kind of effect I am trying to get. Multi layered heaven!!
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Postby mickeymix » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:58 pm

Just making sure .....you can record 24 layers in each riff as well to get this effect...........each riff is not just one guitar riff......it's your melody/bass/drums/ guitar/ vox all at the same time.
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Postby chrismeyer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:02 pm

Mickey

I think I see where I am going wrong. If I create a new riff, but then click on say the rhythm riff I have just recorded, I can lay a new layer over the top of that without destroying the old riff in its "solo" format?

Is that right?
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Postby mickeymix » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:06 pm

right or you can duplicate it and mute / delete the parts you don't want as well.....
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Postby chrismeyer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:06 pm

Doh!!

Cheers Bud!
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Postby mickeymix » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:17 pm

Have fun brother........look forward to your creations.... :)
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Postby gatorjj » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:21 pm

Mickey to the rescue! :D
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