How to do a good fadeout to finish a song?

[geocare]

Thanks, Pooter. Makes sense even though it's illogical! I guess some basic mastering tools should go on the wish list for the upscale version of RW, should it ever come to pass. But for now, that'll do!

[pooterpatty]

We've been talking about that here for a while. Once folks get used to Riffworks, they inevitably start asking for more complex features to be added, which is cool, but the Sonomafolks have to strike a balance between including those features, and keeping the program simple enough to use that people who are new to home recording don't get overwhelmed. There are plenty of apps out there that do all the complex stuff - ProTools, Cubase, Reason, etc. Great apps for sure, but they come with a steep learning curve and an even steeper price tag. When I first bought Riffworks, I took it out of the box, installed it, opened it up, and without reading any instructions, I recorded my first riff in under 5 minutes. That made me happy. Most recording apps will come with a 200-page book entitled "Getting Started"

I personally don't know of any other software that allows you to collaborate with musicians from around the world in real-time, record songs, and post them where a community of like-minded musicians cheer you on and back you up every step of the way. While it won't do everything that something like ProTools will do, Riffworks has no competition when it comes to features vs. price, not to mention the great community that supports it.

[RLW1967]

Wanted to ask that as well. I did find the solution with the info diagrams, but if I know in the back of my head that it's not really a perfect solution it keeps on bugging me, even though I don't really hear the different layers fade out non-simultaneously (sp??).

Is there a (freeware) program that lets you do that once you've mixed down to .wav without wrecking the sound quality? Would also be perfect for fade ins or trimming the ends of a song.

Thanks, rhyno

Audacity is a great (and free!) program that will do lots of that post-mix work, including fades, trimming, converting to MP3 etc.

I love Audacity. I just finished mastering songs that are going to be on my CD debut. I can't say when I will put it out. I already have the title for it. It's called "The Eclectic Music Man." It will have ten songs.

[Wedgebill]

We've been talking about that here for a while. Once folks get used to Riffworks, they inevitably start asking for more complex features to be added, which is cool, but the Sonomafolks have to strike a balance between including those features, and keeping the program simple enough to use that people who are new to home recording don't get overwhelmed. There are plenty of apps out there that do all the complex stuff - ProTools, Cubase, Reason, etc. Great apps for sure, but they come with a steep learning curve and an even steeper price tag. When I first bought Riffworks, I took it out of the box, installed it, opened it up, and without reading any instructions, I recorded my first riff in under 5 minutes. That made me happy. Most recording apps will come with a 200-page book entitled "Getting Started"

I personally don't know of any other software that allows you to collaborate with musicians from around the world in real-time, record songs, and post them where a community of like-minded musicians cheer you on and back you up every step of the way. While it won't do everything that something like ProTools will do, Riffworks has no competition when it comes to features vs. price, not to mention the great community that supports it.

I think these two paragraphs should be printed on the front of the Riffworks box Poot

[michelle]

We've been talking about that here for a while. Once folks get used to Riffworks, they inevitably start asking for more complex features to be added, which is cool, but the Sonomafolks have to strike a balance between including those features, and keeping the program simple enough to use that people who are new to home recording don't get overwhelmed. There are plenty of apps out there that do all the complex stuff - ProTools, Cubase, Reason, etc. Great apps for sure, but they come with a steep learning curve and an even steeper price tag. When I first bought Riffworks, I took it out of the box, installed it, opened it up, and without reading any instructions, I recorded my first riff in under 5 minutes. That made me happy. Most recording apps will come with a 200-page book entitled "Getting Started"

I personally don't know of any other software that allows you to collaborate with musicians from around the world in real-time, record songs, and post them where a community of like-minded musicians cheer you on and back you up every step of the way. While it won't do everything that something like ProTools will do, Riffworks has no competition when it comes to features vs. price, not to mention the great community that supports it.

Thanks for the kind words Poot. Can I quote you on that? Wait, I just did

[atalwar]

as for fadeout question.

As advised, the info thing either on mixed down or multi layer riff is the way to go. It takes a bit of time to get hang of it. i Think holding SHIFT or some another key gives a different control over that. and it is as good for fade in's and mid wipeouts for a riff (non destructive).


Sry to Hijak the Thread but,

Sonama Should Perhaps Patent the Concept.

This is the First app in my entire audioholic life i have come across that is geared towards Musicians, Not Producers and Not Engineers.

Some big name companies have Tried but failed miserably as they try to please everyone.

Not to mention the power of its simplicity (To me the more simple for the end user, the more complex it is for developers).

A Good 'n' Decent Price Tag : One of the hardest things to decide as you gotta focus on your intended target audience. RW is as good for a Beginner Student ( ) as it's for a Nurtured Musician. ( and that is a big spectrum).

The best : Use it as you want to. Great Learning tool, a Semi Pro-pro Recording Application, An Exceptopnal Sketch Pad (no more loading a daw , setting it up to record a riff and then throwing your mouse at the screen or ... )

I could go on and on surgically opnionating on every single feature that made my life a bit less miserable.( in contrast to other apps). but it won't differ much from what all has been said by other users.

Every app as its pluses (their selling point) and minuses, for me RW has way too many pluses.

As for this Community, There are some great casters and you never see em in forums, and then there are some all over the forums ( as in the forums wise man's terms runnin around butt naked) and they are yet to post their first cast.

nuff for the day.

regds,
Amit