Output question, considering purchasing Riffworks

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Postby jerky656 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:22 pm

Greetings forum. I'm a new member, but not yet a customer. I'm new to guitar recording software scene & can't seem to find the answer to one question I have about Riffworks. I'm going to be traveling & need to keep it light. I will be taking my guitar & laptop computer w/ me. I will be experimenting with the recording tools slowly, but mainly I wanted to know if I can pretty much just use the software as a practice amp while on the road?
Here's a quick scenerio:
1. I like to play surf guitar. I dial in the reverb & delay effects I like on the software. I start playing. Will I be able to hear the desire tone out of my computers speakers, or is there no output volume at all, but only during playback?

Remember, this is just for a novice player who is leaving the country for a few months & would like to practice his licks while away. Your info will sway or dissway me from becoming a customer. much appreciated: Eric
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Postby jerky656 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:25 pm

A much easier way to put this: Can I use Riffworks like you would amp modeling software, BUT with the capabilities to record, edit, layer etc...also?
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Postby rhynoclemmis » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:19 pm

With Riffworks, you can apply effects like delay and reverb only after recording. The input signal itself will be clean if you don't use an amp software.
How do you want to get the signal into your laptop? I'm using a Line 6 Toneport, but that of course is another piece of equipment you'll have to carry around (although it weighs next to nothing). In my experience, just connecting the guitar cable to the laptop gives terrible results, quality-wise.

Riffworks itself comes with Ableton Lite (at least my version did) and as far as I understood Ableton is an amp-sim, but I only tried that program once and then stuck to Gearbox, which is the Toneport's amp-sim.

Concerning the question of speaker output during recording you'll have to ask somebody else, sorry. I'm always connected to my Line 6 Toneport.

To sum up: I added a new question and answered none. May as well congratulate myself.
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Postby Charvelguy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:10 pm

Congrats for the conundrum..there I just patted ya on the back too. I'm just kidding, really!
Ok, so as far as I understand it..Ableton is more of a standalone app, mixer-looper- ...as far as I know, you can rewire Ableton live lite 4.0 into the standard vers. So, you can create a part in ableton and then rewire it into Riffworks.
I think this changed for Ableton 5.0 live lite and on up versions released though.

So, you should be able to setup so you can hear the output thru your speakers if your asio output is setup to your internal soundcard so you can hear as you print to lay down your tracks.

Rhyno is correct, that IN, as within the software application itself, effects can be added after the print. However, you can dial those effects in on your gearbox, PODfarm and get your surf tone the way you want it before you rec to print as well.
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Postby jerky656 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:41 pm

rhynoclemmis wrote:With Riffworks, you can apply effects like delay and reverb only after recording. The input signal itself will be clean if you don't use an amp software.
How do you want to get the signal into your laptop? I'm using a Line 6 Toneport, but that of course is another piece of equipment you'll have to carry around (although it weighs next to nothing). In my experience, just connecting the guitar cable to the laptop gives terrible results, quality-wise.

Riffworks itself comes with Ableton Lite (at least my version did) and as far as I understood Ableton is an amp-sim, but I only tried that program once and then stuck to Gearbox, which is the Toneport's amp-sim.

Concerning the question of speaker output during recording you'll have to ask somebody else, sorry. I'm always connected to my Line 6 Toneport.

To sum up: I added a new question and answered none. May as well congratulate myself.

It looks like the new Riffworks w/ stealth plug package includes AmpliTube 2 amp modeling. That would be able to give me at least a little bit of variety as I play right?
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Postby rhynoclemmis » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:46 pm

Yup, with Ampitube it should work fine.
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Postby Charvelguy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:48 pm

Amplitube sampler is limited, 3 models, but it does allow for decent clean and distorted tones. There has been reports the latency isn't quite useable to some.. I thought it was rather cool, but a bit of delay in laying down the tracks.

There's plenty of comments and posts about it in forum, the search feature is really useful for some newcommers.
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