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by **vsalvati** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:29 am

Hell I try my best to sing and I know Im not the best and never will be but if you don't try there is no lyrics no story. Yea It takes alot to try to do it but I will never tell some one about singing but I try to tell a story. I mean do you think rock singers can really sing anyway. If you can't be positive and are trying to critique someone you had better be dammed good or shut the hell up

by **Rotund** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:10 pm

How would you like to do this and get the comments he got?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkVoL2s3awg
And do these guys really pull down $$$$K from sequencing beats and selling them?Sh-- man I got for real Calkwalk and demo Fruity Loops and beats in my head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0bFNFp9O8E
Anybody want to collab one with me.

by **jessejohhavoc** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:32 pm

without free speech and free critisism, our music industry would compare to north koreas; meaningless and non-existant.

by **Rotund** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:54 pm

So our music system today is meaningful? And free speech is an overused term to justify bad behavior. Free Speech is the ability to convey your ideas without reprisal from a Government Power. Not an excuse to be part of an anarchy or justify bigotry and hatred. Why is it OK to use the language in the manner that it is in the name of free speech. To use an old term that's a cop out or excuse to justify one's own self rightousness and imposition on others. Free speech and Free Criticism are NOT one in the same.

by **Muddhole** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:29 pm

Here are some quotes from some very smart people regarding criticism blue4u, I hope they help you with this.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
-Theodore Roosevelt

“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.”
-Benjamin Franklin

“He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help.”
-Abraham Lincoln

“One mustn't criticize other people on grounds where he can't stand perpendicular himself”
-Mark Twain

Hope your day is going better today.

by **blue4u** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:02 am

Hey, thanks guys! This is an old post and I was clearly having a bad day when I wrote it

Criticism is par for course when we put ourselves out there as artists or otherwise. I don't really have a place to tell others not to complain as much as I find it rude. This post was meant to serve as a reminder that it's better IMO to be supportive than to ridicule. But ya know...I shouldn't be so damn sensitive now should I? Ha! Let it be...let it be

by **vad1er** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:11 am

"I have something to say, It is better to burn out than Fade away!" The Kergan.

"Courage is fear that has said it's prayers!" Candy Anglin

"Who wants to live forever" Red Sonya

In other words: The Critics can kiss my White trash behind.. I will not be silenced!

Blue if they are critical of your massive talent it is pure Jealousy.. There is no other possibility period!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a PRO!

by **blue4u** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:23 am

It should also be noted that I am a completely ridiculous person

My Uncle Bill can testify to that!

by **Wiese** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:11 pm

Im absolutly agree with Rich!!!! And for me You and Lenny are the best Singers I have ever Worked with You both are Fantastic Singer!!!And all Guys with critics shut up Your
Mouth!!!!!!!!!!JoJo

by **Muddhole** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:40 pm

Wiese wrote:Im absolutly agree with Rich!!!! And for me You and Lenny are the best Singers I have ever Worked with You both are Fantastic Singer!!!And all Guys with critics shut up Your
Mouth!!!!!!!!!!JoJo

I agree, lets get'm Jojo! :mad:

by **Wedgebill** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:50 pm

blue4u wrote:It should also be noted that I am a completely ridiculous person My Uncle Bill can testify to that!

This statement is only 95% true

by **bazworld** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:04 pm

Can you believe someone said I could not sing, CRAZY RIFFERS(yeah you)(sort of cover)
How very dear they I was really upset.

by **trikloretylen** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:19 pm

Wedgebill wrote:
blue4u wrote:It should also be noted that I am a completely ridiculous person My Uncle Bill can testify to that!

This statement is only 95% true

are you really qualified to testify that?

do you have any papers on that, documents ,certificate, anything?

by **gromitsdad** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:13 pm

I'll be posting some stuff with vocals soon...I'm looking forward to hearing how much I suck!

Chris

by **blue4u** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:36 pm

Looking forward to that Chris!

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