A few noob questions please...

[Blaydrnnnr]

Hi all... I know these are going to be usual noob questions so I apologize in advance .. I'm new to RW and would like some info.... first.. I cant seem to find basic how to info so here I am. ( like actual step by step on doing things like taking recorded layers and mixing them down.. I'll explain..) I'm using RW with my UX2 and Gearbox....I managed to record about 12 riffs, and lined them in the song bar.... I am wanting to fade some things in and out and back in again....can this be done? or will I have to some how get these into a different app like Albeton or reaper/ ( can this even be done? ) I was hoping for some video tuts or step by steps on doing this right..I went to Gators site and read through the info on mixing. but I'm a dope and it didnt come together for me....is mixing done on the riffs in the song bar? or on the individual riffs themselves? ( both perhaps? ) as you can tell.. I'm lost...
I think part of my problem here is as a first timer, I did all the riffs in 8 bar loops, some riffs have anywhere from 2 to 5 layers...I was wanting to fade some things in and out.. alot of the rhythms were just copied to each track..... I guess I was looking for some good tutorials..even on youtube..LOL.Any help would be appreciated.. but warning.. I will be asking for alot of help to get started.. again... thanks in advance

[samiller]

I am wanting to fade some things in and out and back in again....can this be done?

First off, welcome, I'm new too and wondered this same thing. Yes you can, click on the info button on any riff, it will open up a box under the riff.. i have no idea what you call the blue vertical lines.. but they are pretty much the volume of your notes.. now.. see at the very top of that box there is a gray line.. i think its gray anyway.. put your cursor on it, click and hold, and drag that line down to decrease volume in that spot.. someone please correct me if i dont have this quite right.. im pretty new to this too and only played with this feature once since i started using RW..

[Rotund]

It is my understanding that what you are referring to is called an Automation Curve and in riffworks it is a manual process using point and click as described. Good Knowledge and digging in on your part which is what I am doing as a new guy. In regards to final mix RW has alot of features that will allow you to get a great recording and final mix although somewhat tedious but only because of its great "structure" that promotes the creative process for writing songs. That is the area of focus that will get you results with this app "creativity" and work flow for writing songs. I believe most (generalization) will export to wave and do a final in another program if really going for a finished product vs. creating a song. This happens especially in the area of normalization (required if you don't pay attention to the monitor at the top of the app red means bad for the entire mix) and will have poor results if you don't. Also fade ins and out can be accomplished with the Automation Curve adjusted in each layer but ID does not have one, therefore export to a final mix in audacity or your choice. There are some tricks with using a 1bar or 2bar riff and pick an ID with an ending or intro drum part or use a loop file (rex.) So bottom line (opinion) is get after creating your stuff in RW and the rest of it, that's why 2.5 (i think, I am not the developer) was created with the export features it has. It's "work flow" in the area of innovative sounds, melodies and song writting. Have some fun and bring it on. No one is going to critisize you if your songs have production issues at least that has been my experience so far. Oh and Welcome, I personally love this place Riffworld I have never experienced anything like it in the www and hope it stays this way. I have had more fun with music in the past 9 months than the previous 40 years. (see the age thread)

[samiller]

(see the age thread)

There's an age thread? But Rotund is right, RW is the coolest place on the WWW that I have found and I too have had a lot more fun with music in the past 2 weeks then I have in my previous 37 or so years.

going to find this "age" thread you speak of now..

[Rotund]

Here it is:

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6159

[SoCaljammer]

There is a way to fade everything including the drummer in Riffworks. After you set all your riffs in the song time line (your arrangement), up at the top of the control panel there are some buttons, one of them says “Mix”. Press it and you see four or five different options, choose the “mix to riff” option and it will mix the whole song line to one riff. When you open that riff you will see one layer and it’s named “Bounce”. You can change the name to the title of the song or the part of the song, i.e. lead section, verse 1…or whatever. Remove all your “little riffs” from the song line and replace with the new “song riff” it takes up the same amount of space or time as your “little riffs” did. From there open the info button and draw your fade with the mouse. Good luck as I have yet to master a straight line with that damned mouse, but its close enough. One thing though, make sure you have the mix you want with all the levels correct before you “mix to riff”. Also, if you mixed your whole song to one riff and you used the song layers, make sure you mute them before you cast or mix to wave because those parts will be twice as loud.
Now after all this I hope I understood your question. Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Jim

[samiller]

Thanks Jim, a lot of good info there that I didn't know.


I can never get a straight line with the mouse either..

[samiller]

Here it is:

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6159

Thanks Rotund, I found it.

45 here..... :rolleyes:

[Blaydrnnnr]

47 here .... Hey!! Thanks all for the answers.. I'm still lost, but just the fact you guys are answering back is huge.... Just alittel background, I've been playing for 37 years... have done some studio work.. but know NOTHING about working the software. All I know about recording is...." One more time please!" LOL.. I'm going to spend Friday night looking at fading a few tracks.. ( riffs? ) and working some timing on about twelve or thirteen tracks... ( layers? or riffs? ) and see what I can do. I also have the full version of Ableton Live 7 so I'm trying to learn something there too.. I am hoping I can do some good work in RW and then get it into Live 7 for some fine tweaking and mixing? Maybe over ambitious... but we'll see.
Some stats.....:
'71, '81, '04 Strats
2, Fender 2X12 Twins
1 Ross 100W 1X12
Tone Port UX2
Boss Loop Station
Zoom G2
Gearbox
Pod Farm
Ableton Live 7

And yes... right now all are running on my 64 Bit Vista system.
Thanks again all...more questions are a comming!!

[fooks]

hi blaydrnnnr,

the colored blocks we call riffs and layers are tracks, lol. i think!