Mix to Riff

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Postby bluesydude » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:43 pm

Am I missing something about Mix to Riff?

I understand that the only way to do this is to drag the riff to the song line and then mix it.

If this is true, am I the only one that thinks we REALLY need to be able to mix to riff the current riff without dragging it to the song line?

After I have constructed a song consisting of 20+ riffs and then I want to do a rewire riff or a fade out or fade in riff, I have to remove all of the 20+ riffs then drag the one riff up to the song line, mix to riff, remove the last riff I just mixed and then drag the 20+ riffs back to the song line.

Thoughts? How do you do this? Am I just going about this wrong?

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Postby mickeymix » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:17 pm

I usually export the riff and then re-import into a "new" song to mix to riff rather then empty a large and complicated songbar.... I have the luxury of putting the riff on a thumbdrive and putting into Riffworks on my laptop and mixing to riff with never having to close the original song and Riffworks on my PC.....but not all have that, they would have the tedious option of closing the song re-importing the riff, mixing to riff and re-loading into the original song.....which I do sometimes rather then boot up a shutdown Laptop.
Agreed BD that a right click and mix to riff is an option that is mos def needed.
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Postby bluesydude » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:20 pm

I'd thought about using two different computers. I could set up a shared folder for the export/import riffs. At least that would cut out the thumb drive part. Maybe I could use virtual desktops (if the memory holds out.). I just wanted to make sure that currently using the song line was the only way within riffworks. Thanks, Mickey.
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Postby bluesydude » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:44 am

I tried the virtual desktops and that didn't work. :(
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Postby Muddhole » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:26 am

I just take a screenshot (CTRL+Print Screen) and paste that into Word, then drag what ever files I want to mix down into a riff, then use the screenshot to rebuild my song.

It does suck though, yeah there has got to be a better way to do this. You can't create a song backward by creating the "end" of a song the build back or can you?

I don't know, inquiring minds want to know.
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Postby Sandman » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:50 am

I've pondered this myself.

I do the fade last. After all riffs are mixed, I go through the song line and number the riffs 1 to however many there are. Then mix to riff and do the fade in the info envelope. That way I can put it all back togather quicker.

I figure once your done with the song, you can save the song before this last step and re-save it with another name if you need to save the riff names in the original layout.

My wish would be to have, in order of usefulness;

The ability to mix rewire to a layer.

The ability to mix drummer to layer.

The ability to mix layers together and keep the other muted layers in the riff for mixing later.

The ability to copy layers from one riff to another riff of the same length.

But yes Mix, the old right click on the riff to "mix to riff" would be a real time saver.

As for the rewire, a lot of times I'll do the rewire part 1st, then mix to riff to get the rewire layer. Can be a pain if you want to bring in the rewire stuff later in the process.
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Postby pbbobkanobi » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:14 am

Word! In a perfect RiffWorld........
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Postby fooks » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:44 am

inline mix to riff or even in a separate "mix to riff" section of the coral.

now it's, export riff, save song, hit new, import riff, mix to riff, export, open song, import!
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Postby atalwar » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:31 pm

as i have requested/suggested in some previous posts too, i'll shamelessly post once again.

+1k on what sandman has suggested as these increase productivity many folds.

We already have a dialog/popup for export riff , perhaps we could have few more options there,

mixdown all Layers to a New Riff.

Mixdown Unlocked Layers only (keeping locked layers separate)

Bounce drummers, rewire,rex to separate layers.

Export Wet Layers (as wav) (i.e apply the sonoma 7 layer effects/volume/pan to layers before export to wav,currently it only exports RAW and Dry wave files i think or something wrong at my end.

Currently RW only allows a Certain predefined Path, as far as productivity is concerned, and that at times hinders creativity a bit especially for amateur experi-mentals like me (byproducts of digital age) who usually never know what they'll end up with. ;)
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