Can anyone explain how to fade out

[ronalr]

I can not find any info on fading a song in the help files
someone mentioned a fade control, and in the instructions it says fade automation but does not explain.
Thanks, Ron

[strat]

The "info" button on each layer in each riff will show a wave like graphic where you can use your mouse to "draw" a fade in/out..sometimes theres "bars" you lower to control the volume envolope..mix song to riff to apply fade in/out to entire tune..hope this helps..strat

[ldavis]

You can use the fader control to fade out each layer as strat said but it it much easier to download Audacity (freeware) and fade out the mixed song. Now, if you are wanting to have continuous volume control on a layer then the method strat said is the only way to go.

[ronalr]

Thanks guys, downloaded Audacity and that works great, also got an email from Sonoma support explaining about the info button. mixed to riff the ending and faded that last riff drums and all. Thanks again, great info
Ron

[michelle]

There is also a nice explaination in the guide here :
http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guide/index.php/Gain_Automation

[DaFreak]

In the image of the guide I see a clear defined line that you can draw, but when I'm using the info button in riffworks there are only bars and no line, which make for kind of choppy fade ins and outs, instead of the smooth kind that I'm looking for. Is there any way I can change this, is it a setting or something?

[RiffLearner]

In the image of the guide I see a clear defined line that you can draw, but when I'm using the info button in riffworks there are only bars and no line, which make for kind of choppy fade ins and outs, instead of the smooth kind that I'm looking for. Is there any way I can change this, is it a setting or something?

I think the reason you're seeing bars is because it's broken up by eighth notes, so my guess is you're working on a fairly short riff, so the eighth notes are more substantial relative to the length of the riff.

If you adjust on a riff as long as an entire song, then the bars will disappear, and will look more like a smooth line, and will probably sound more like a smooth fade as well. Not sure, just my suspicion...

[scott]

I don't know if you're adjusting each 'block' individually but you can also drag your mouse across each block whilst moving the cursor diagonally down an 'imaginary' line towards the end of the riff. This will reduce each block one after the other without having to stop between each one.
I've never faded an individual riff before so I was interested to check this out. One of my riffs from a previously recorded song was eight bars and each block was a quarter note, so 32 'blocks'. Another song was six bars and each block was an eighth note, so 48 'blocks'. Both of these riffs were 4/4 time so I don't know why RWS changes the number of blocks.
Then I tried recording a long riff from scratch (24 bars) with just one layer. Lo and behold, there were no blocks but just one long line which was easy to fade out. "It must be the length of bar" thinks I.
So then I did a 12 bar riff with the same result - no blocks, just the line.
I tried 8 bars and the same thing - no blocks.

So now I'm confused as to why some of my riffs show the 'fade out' facility as 'blocks' (it's clearly nothing to do with the bar length) and others have the line. Hmmmm?! :/

[gatorjj]

Scott, riffs under 8 bars have the blocks, 8 and over the line...as you've seen! Why I'm not sure, but I'm sure Sonoma probably has a reason to do it that way.

[DaFreak]

Ah thanks for the info! Well I always record for 4 bars so I guess I'll have to live with choppy fade ins for now.

[scott]

JJ,

I've had 8 bar riffs with both the 'blocks' and the line (not at the same time!) The pre-recorded song I checked out had blocks and the one I did 'live' during my experiment had the line. Curiouser and curiouser!?

[gatorjj]

Curiouser and curiouser!?

Very!

[dave]

I'll bite. Our gain automation is beat sync'd, just like everything else in RiffWorks. We decided to do that for a couple reasons. The main one is that you can perfectly punch in and punch out different layers since their automation points are the same. In case you're wondering, we tried different beat syncings and 8th note seemed to work the best. The reason we show blocks at the lower bar count is so you can see the automation points more clearly. That said, we don't just immediately change the volume, we smooth across the points on a sample by sample basis. You should see those block or line values as targets for the eigth notes with everything in between being interpolated sample by sample.

Dave