Future RW feature request

[rrhea]

Hey guys,

I have a future feature request for RW...

It would be nice to have looping ability in the main song timeline. When I am composing solos I find it quite uesful to loop sections of a song endlessly until I come up with something I like. In RW sometimes the loops will encompass several riffs, not just one.

It would nice to be able to throw together the arrangement in the main timeline and just loop the two or more riffs up there to work out solo ideas without having to bounce riffs out of RW and into some other app (as I am currently doing). The only other alternatives are to dismantle the arrangement in the main timeline and drag a zillion riffs up there to make your own long loop or to mix the two or more riffs to a single riff and bring it back in. Not very convenient.

Also, I would love to see the ability to move layers around as mentioned in a previous thread. It would be nice to be able to stack them in any order within the riff for tidyness, as well as drag and drop them to other riffs with both "cut and paste" type functionality.

Another cool layer feature would be a "minimize" button to collapse the layer to an even smaller height. This would help reduce scrolling and clutter in riffs with a bunch of layers.

Thanks for listening!

Ryan

[randy]

Those are all great ideas and I've just gone and added them to our list of feature requests for future RW releases.

Thank you!

[Timejunkie]

I agree...the ability to move (drag & drop), cut and paste layers is definatle a must.

Riff lengths, time signatures etc...would obviously have to match up... however other than that it should be doable.

I would also like to see that once a layer is "named" any affects that are applied to that layer would be "optionally" applied to any other layers with the same name. This would save a ton of time applying effects to layers. the same would go for volume adjustments to layers...this should be optionally applied via 1 layer to all layers of the same name.

I have asked for this one for a while now but I'll mention it again....the ability to Master tracks without exporting to another app would be nice. Sound Forge and Adobe Auditon have nice effects etc...for this purpose and would be a good refernce for what Sonoma may be able to incorporate.

I'm sure I have more....but just some food for thought.

Cheers,
Chip

[randy]

I would also like to see that once a layer is "named" any affects that are applied to that layer would be "optionally" applied to any other layers with the same name. This would save a ton of time applying effects to layers. the same would go for volume adjustments to layers...this should be optionally applied via 1 layer to all layers of the same name.

Are you using Effects "Store A/B" feature? It saves me a ton of time when applying effects. Setup the effects on one layer and then click save it to an effects store by clicking "STORE A". Now to go the layer you'd like to apply the FX to and click "LOAD A". The effects should now be applied to that layer. You can use this for drummers and input effects too.

I have asked for this one for a while now but I'll mention it again....the ability to Master tracks without exporting to another app would be nice. Sound Forge and Adobe Auditon have nice effects etc...for this purpose and would be a good refernce for what Sonoma may be able to incorporate.

I've always been able to come up with really nice sounding mixes without relying on a third-party mastering application. What specific mastering features would you like to see made available in RW?

[strat]

I use 3rd party apps. to be able to use vst and add sound efxs to my riffwork creations..if their was a way to bring the vst and waves to riffworks,,that would be my wish...

[rrhea]

Thanks Randy!

You guys are always listening to us to improve the product, and that is so great.

Thanks again,

Ryan

[gatorjj]

I have asked for this one for a while now but I'll mention it again....the ability to Master tracks without exporting to another app would be nice. Sound Forge and Adobe Auditon have nice effects etc...for this purpose and would be a good refernce for what Sonoma may be able to incorporate.

I've always been able to come up with really nice sounding mixes without relying on a third-party mastering application. What specific mastering features would you like to see made available in RW?

One of the things I think could be done in the interim would be to "mix-to-riff" and then apply one's compression or eq to one's heart's content. There's already a built in limiter. Maybe a way to apply the current effects to the song like can already be done to riff layers and backups?

I'd hate to see it get crazy and have Multiband compressors and the like...and end up with a $499 version of riffworks LOL My vote's for a couple VST slots post recording...please keep it simple or we'll never figure it out!

J.J.

[GuitarSlinger]

If and when we get .wave import, maybe we could just render our track to wave and then start the mastering process right in riffworks?

[randy]

If and when we get .wave import, maybe we could just render our track to wave and then start the mastering process right in riffworks?

What specific mastering abilities would you like to have in RW that aren't currently available during the song creation process?

Just trying to get a feeling for what people are looking for.

[GuitarSlinger]

Id really like to use some outside VST's especially reverbs and eq.

[Timejunkie]

If and when we get .wave import, maybe we could just render our track to wave and then start the mastering process right in riffworks?

What specific mastering abilities would you like to have in RW that aren't currently available during the song creation process?

Just trying to get a feeling for what people are looking for.

Hi Randy,

Thanks for listening BTW!

I think Gator may be pointing in the right direction. A VST capability would be nice then we can use our favourite post-recording plug-ins for mastering.

However if that is not in the cards then my wish list is a mulit-band compressor, stereo imager, automatic fades and a graphic EQ all with some form of pre-sets to keep things simple.

BTW...I haven't used mix to riff lately....did you guys address the double limiting bug?

Cheers,
Chip

[ShredRex]

Hi Randy, I was going to add in my 2 cents.....I use a parametric eq, hard limiter, multiband compressor, and stereo expander for mastering. Just an example of a very basic chain.

[rrhea]

I think 3rd party VST usability would be an overall simpler solution like gatorj suggested. I like and use Ozone 3, and being able to use that (or any other VST/DX plug) in the "master bus" to affect the whole song would be nice.

Ryan

[bluesydude]

Since I ain't bright enough to figure out all the mastering stuff, I wish some of you audio gurus would post two versions of the same song to RiffCaster, one with the best mix you feel you can get from the RiffWorks only and then the one you mastered with 3rd party so we could hear the difference. Looking forward to it.

[rrhea]

I am close to finishing a song, and if I get it done before someone else here I'll post the two versions.

Basically in finishing up a recording after getting the instruments to "tape" or (hardrive ), you have two phases... mixing and mastering. Once the mixing and basic EQ'ing is done to the tracks (just as you would in RW) you then master the recording usually with separate and specialized tools from the toolset you use for recording/mixing. Typical mastering stuff would be EQ, compression, volume maximzing, reverb, harmonic exciters, etc.). Nowadays all this stuff can be found in plugins (or in the case of the software I use, all of them can be found in one plugin called Ozone 3).

Most people just use volume maximizers (somewhat ignorantly ) just to get their recording to sound as loud as their favorite CD, but mastering is much more involved than that. Definitely an art unto itself.

Ryan