Future RW feature request

[bluesydude]

I have heard some recordings posted on RiffCaster and they sound pro quality to my ears. Of course like anything else, one can purchase the best tools money can buy - but if one is not skilled in using the tool, it is a waste. That is why I tend to agree with JJ about not adding so much to RW that it would drive the cost up and out of the range of the guitar hobbyist. I will be looking forward to you recordings Ryan.

[rrhea]

Right. That's why I think just adding the VST "slot" capability to RW is probably the best way to go. The ability is there for those who need/want to use plugins, and the rest of the users can just use RW like always.

RR

[Maxe]

I also like the idea of implanting a VST port. I think RiffWorks itself is doing a great job and mostly I'm getting the final results I want (well okay, sometimes I use SoundForge to dress it up a bit). One feature I'd REALLY like to se would be a drum pattern sequencer. The reason for this is, - while there surely is a wast array of nice sounding Instant Drummer sessions available, it would be extremely usefull if you could add a crash, double kick, hi-hat lift and the likes - exactly where you want it! I mean, like a companion to InstantDrummer. What do you think of that?
Peace.
-=M=-

[bluesydude]

FWIW to the gang at Sonoma. The biggest attraction to this package for me is the ease of use. It is the "git 'er done" package!

[Timejunkie]

I agree it should be kept simple whatever direction (if any) Sonoma goes.

LOL...bluseydude maybe we could have a Master-rumble I.

Cheers,
Chip

[gatorjj]

Most people just use volume maximizers (somewhat ignorantly ) just to get their recording to sound as loud as their favorite CD, but mastering is much more involved than that. Definitely an art unto itself.
Ryan

Writing, tracking, mixing and mastering are each arts unto themselves! Each step, if done well makes the next one easy. I have not found any magic bullets other than that...the real magic is in your ears

[dave]

I think its cool that you guys understand that we're trying to keep things simple. All of the things you guys are talking about are certainly feasible within the concept of RiffWorks and a lot of them will likely show up in the future. Mastering effects would be a personal pet feature of mine, but we just couldn't get it done for V2. Maybe someday in the future...

Dave

[ldavis]

Guys,

One of the things that just occured to me and I assume many of you are re-amping. Gatorjj had already suggested that you could mix-to-riff and then apply the RW effect to that layer. However, with that approach you are limited to just RW effects and basically just compression and a parametric eq. If you have a device that supports re-amping (like POD XTL) then you can re-amp and apply any available VST effects. Up until now I have been using Audacity for some very basic compression and eq but this discussion has opened up a whole new area for me. So my question is what VST effects(for CD mastering) do you guys know of that are free or very cheap.

Maybe I am missing the obvious here but unless you have device that does not support re-amping (specifically GuitarPort), it seems to me that this functionality is supported. We as a group just need to colloborate to find the best and most cost effective VST effects for this purpose. I am not saying that RW shouldn't work on this just that it may be available to everyone for the cost of a used toneport on Ebay (or whatever device is the least expensive that supports re-amping) if you do not already have one.

[bluesydude]

I assume many of you is re-amping.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by re-amping. I own a Pod XTL so I guess I am re-amping and didn't realize it.

[ldavis]

I assume many of you are re-amping.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by re-amping. I own a Pod XTL so I guess I am re-amping and didn't realize it.

If you click on the audio setup (I think) in the lower right corner of RW you can set this up. There are various layers you have to go through to get to the setting but the default is to send processed guitar input. In other words, what you hear is what is recorded. But if you set this to send clean guitar, you hear the processed sound but a completely dry guitar sound is recorded. Why would you want to do this? Well, once you have recorded the dry sound you can change the setting to re-amp mode and when you play anything it will be passed back through the POD XTL and processed with those effects. If you record then the processed sounds are then recorded. You'll want to make sure that you solo the part and turn off any drums. This is really valuable if you do not know exactly how you want the parts to sound as you are recording. Simply record the clean guitar sound and then you can get a Marshall or Fender sound later. Even better you can bi-amp (both Marshall and Fender sounds at the same time) by re-amping twice. There is almost no limit, and you can do this with any instrument

What I was talking about is you could re-amp the entire song mixed to a single riff, but not process the signal in the XTL. Any VST effect would be applied and that opens up a whole bunch of matering effect, both free and cheap.

BTW, English is not a second language to me but my typing may be very poor. I assume many of you "are" re-amping

[bluesydude]

Thanks, I really appreciate your time in explaining re-amping. I will have to play with this before I fully understand what you mean. My mind works much faster than my fingers both on the keyboard and the fretboard. I is always keying or playing the wrong thing.

[ldavis]

Well the bad news is that I tried to re-amp and use VST effects. That appears not to work so maybe someone from RW can tell me what I might be doing wrong or if this is just not possible with V2.

BTW, I used to live in your neck of the woods. Just to get to know you a bit, was Saturday a good or bad (maybe just OK) day for you (You don't have to answer if you don't want to)

[bluesydude]

A great day.

[ldavis]

I guess Gatorjj doesn't like you too much right now

WDE

[pbbobkanobi]

Reamping is a great tool...one I have not yet used.....hhhmmmm.