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by **blue4u** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:53 pm

1. Does RiffWorks 2 Standard work with NI Guitar Rig v1 OR v2? If not, are there plans to make it compatible?

2. I am having trouble with some of my VST plugins such as SimulAmp. These plug ins don't have a graphical interface so, that might be the issue. They DO show up in the list under "Amp" but when I select them it asks me to pick an amp first and won't play.

3. Are there Re-amping capabilities with RiffWorks 2 Standard? My guess is no which, is fine but leaves me to wonder if this is in the works for future releases? Would be quite nice!

4. Can TonePort run side by side with Guitar Port using RiffWorks 2 Standard? I am having trouble with this. I like the version 1.14 sounds of Guitar Port and would like to use them along with GearBox 3.0 using TonePort. When I try this, RiffWorks 2 Standard doesn't recognize the Guitar Port as an audio ASIO device. The drop downs in "Audio Setup" come up empty and I have to uninstall Guitar Port to reinstate the option for TonePort. My guess is that it's because the GuitarPort drivers are too old? Is there a workaround for this?

5. In TonePort, is it possible to record two inputs (i.e. Mic 1 and Instrument 1) simultaneously?

6. Where is the hardware/software list for compatible VSTs and I/O that were tested with RiffWorks 2 Standard?

P.S. I found the upgrade from RiffWorks 2 Line 6 edition to RiffWorks 2 Standard was WELL worth the added capabilities for $59. Thanks for this option!

Thanks,
Rich

by **mickeymix** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:32 am

G Rig 1 and G Rig 2 both work with RW Standard...............once in a while it (G Rig) might crash RW but not sure why!

Overall I am very happy with the way G rig 2 shows up as a VST and the way it sounds as well!

by **blue4u** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:17 pm

Hey mickeymix! So, you've used both versions successfully with RW2? How do you compare the differences from GearBox software? Thanks!

Rich

by **mickeymix** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:45 pm

G Rig 2 is more flexible then GBox as far as building amps and daisy chaining monster amp set-ups......The bass tones in GRig 2 are phenomenal and I use them almost exclusively.........now mind you ...I just got a TonePort and got the Bass expansion pack and haven't had the chance to compare them yet..... but maybe tonight!
Installed GRig 2 and it is a fresh install alongside GRig 1 so both show up in the amp drop down menu in RW 2 which is a lil redundant......seeing as I won't use ver 1 anymore.... oh well doesn't take long to un-install (GRig 1)
The GBox guitar tones are sweet as well but having GBox and GRig 2 gives you a hell of a lot of options!
You will not be dissapointed......

by **scott** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:10 pm

Mickey,

Do the bass and vocal presets all come with the TonePort? I've noticed you can buy them for GuitarPort as a GearBox plug-in for $199.00.

by **blue4u** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:08 am

Scott,

The Gearbox plug in will NOT add any amps or settings to your original set up. So, if you have Guitar Port all the plug in will do for you is allow you to use the sounds you already have within GP as a VST plugin in another host. This confused me at first. Kind of misleading.

If you read the FAQ here you might understand it better: http://www.line6.com/gearbox_plugin/faq.html

"You can purchase “Plug-in functionality” for TonePort UX1 / UX2 / KB37, PODXT bean / Pro / Live, or GuitarPort. This will give you a license key to install into that device and any models you own" - note the "models you own" segment!

Rich

by **blue4u** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:09 am

Still curious about my other questions. Maybe I asked too many? I posted them in the forum because I thought others might benefit from the responses.

Anyone care to respond to any of the other questions? Thanks in advance!

Rich

by **mickeymix** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:51 am

scott wrote:Mickey,

Do the bass and vocal presets all come with the TonePort? I've noticed you can buy them for GuitarPort as a GearBox plug-in for $199.00.

Yeah Scott.... the vocal and Bass pre's are there with the TonePort and even more (Bass Pre's) with The Bass Expansion!!
vocal presets are awesome in the TonePort... a singer of your caliber will mos def love the pre's in the TonePort....... a lot more options then the GuitarPort!
I loved my GuitarPort ......but I love my TonePort even MORE!!!!

by **scott** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:43 pm

Thanks Mickey and apologies to 'blue4u' for hijacking the thread!

by **mickeymix** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:08 pm

blue4u wrote:Still curious about my other questions. Maybe I asked too many? I posted them in the forum because I thought others might benefit from the responses.

Anyone care to respond to any of the other questions? Thanks in advance!

Rich

BUMP for Blue

by **mickeymix** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:27 am

blue4u wrote:4. Can TonePort run side by side with Guitar Port using RiffWorks 2 Standard? I am having trouble with this. I like the version 1.14 sounds of Guitar Port and would like to use them along with GearBox 3.0 using TonePort. When I try this, RiffWorks 2 Standard doesn't recognize the Guitar Port as an audio ASIO device. The drop downs in "Audio Setup" come up empty and I have to uninstall Guitar Port to reinstate the option for TonePort. My guess is that it's because the GuitarPort drivers are too old? Is there a workaround for this?

5. In TonePort, is it possible to record two inputs (i.e. Mic 1 and Instrument 1) simultaneously?

Concerning these two points.....
Point 4 ....GP will NOT run along side RW 2 .... RW 2 needs GearBox with any Line 6 device...

Point 5.....
http://www.sonomawireworks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=959
You can Not record to 2 separate channels in RW2 from your tonePort... I know that bites but i read that on a different thread ... i'll try to find it and post it hear for you bro....

by **mickeymix** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:30 am

point #3
Heres a link...

http://www.sonomawireworks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=627
and in another....

IDavis wrote:Guys,

One of the things that just occured to me and I assume many of you are re-amping. Gatorjj had already suggested that you could mix-to-riff and then apply the RW effect to that layer. However, with that approach you are limited to just RW effects and basically just compression and a parametric eq. If you have a device that supports re-amping (like POD XTL) then you can re-amp and apply any available VST effects. Up until now I have been using Audacity for some very basic compression and eq but this discussion has opened up a whole new area for me. So my question is what VST effects(for CD mastering) do you guys know of that are free or very cheap.

Maybe I am missing the obvious here but unless you have device that does not support re-amping (specifically GuitarPort), it seems to me that this functionality is supported. We as a group just need to colloborate to find the best and most cost effective VST effects for this purpose. I am not saying that RW shouldn't work on this just that it may be available to everyone for the cost of a used toneport on Ebay (or whatever device is the least expensive that supports re-amping) if you do not already have one.

by **pbbobkanobi** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:00 am

Here is a great free mastering suite:

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php

by **camaro24gold** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:17 pm

pbbobkanobi

thanks for that link

by **gatorjj** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:23 pm

Mickeymix, I don't think Audacity support VST's? I downloaded Reaper (also free, at least I think it still is) for VST support. Reaper won't edit audio clips but will let you apply/tweak VST's in real time for mastering (which is how you need to do it!)

The kjaerhaus VST's are great! I also use some free ones from Digital Fish Phones http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=3 I used Endorphin from these guys for mastering Chip Gall's CD (aka TimeJunkie).

In the end listen carefully, all these plugs do things a little different and sound a little different. Use your ears and pick the ones you like best!

J.J.

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