Drummers, double kick, metal

[yawroN]

Hi all, in the drummer selection we have to choose from, I feel there is a great shortage of metal drummers ?
I would like to see some "double kick drummers", type Arch Enemy, In flames, Carcass etc. (I am not a drummer so I don't know the correct description or beat etc for what I need...)

I have only previewed the ones that are not included with v2, but from what I can hear, none of them seems to do the work for this kind of music. The ones included are great, and I use them alot for other types, more "rock" type sound. I would prefer a more "metal" sound though.

Thanks,
Jorgen

[xwxjncoxwx]

/agree

[DeathMonster34]

totally agree! I think they should add metal drummers with double bass drums and stuff.

[hbursk]

Ok, I will. But I want it to be good. What are some songs I can buy on iTunes to really get the right feel for these drummers?

Hayden from Drummerheads

[mauvehead]

You might take a look at what the guys over at www.drumsfromhell.com have done. Unfortunately they currently only offer their loops in wav format but I have been bugging them via email about putting out some Rex versions. But I think those sort of drum loops are what many of us are looking for in this particular genre, including how they sound tone-wise. If you guys over at Drummerheads can pull this sort of stuff off then I'd definitely buy into it.

[hbursk]

I think that's very doable. I have an electrobeats drummer I'm very close to finishing, then some more vintage rock and four on the floor material. Then, we bare down into the metal drummers. A little 32nd note kick action, a tight ringy snare, and we'll be all set.

[thunderdrums]

if ya want some really cool double bass action check out a band called fear factory.

or some live Judas Priest with Scott Travis on drums.

[yawroN]

Ok, I will. But I want it to be good. What are some songs I can buy on iTunes to really get the right feel for these drummers?

Hayden from Drummerheads

Hi there, here are some examples.

Arch Enemy : Dead Eyes See No Future - Incarnated Solvent Abuse (Carcass Cover)

In Flames : Reroute To remains - Trigger & Drifter

Carcass : Heartwork album or Necrotism... albums

Any albums from these artists will do really (I realize a number of these drumbeats are in synch or depends on the guitar riffs, so I'm not saying I want a clone, but similar "style")

Thanks for your effort.
Jorgen

PS I just listened to the drumsfromhell samples as suggested above, and similar to that would be great.

[AirmanSwi]

I second Fear Factory. I'd like to add Children of Bodom to the list as well.

I'm looking forward to more drums from Drummerheads. I find them to be the most usable Instant Drummers available right now. Keep on keeping on.

Swi

[prawntoast]

Hi Hayden,

Fear Factory - Replica
Trivium - The Deceived
The Black Dahlia Murder - Miasma
Children of Bodum - Are You Dead Yet?
Lamb of God - Redneck
Soulfy - Dark Ages
Dragonforce - Through The Fire and the Flames

That should give you an indication of the kind of drumming samples I'd be looking for.

Thanks for your time,
Al

[mauvehead]

Strapping Young Lad comes to mind.

[prawntoast]

Strapping Young Lad comes to mind.

Excellent choice - I should have thought of that one myself.

[mauvehead]

Yeah....SYL makes Fear Factory look like Sony & Cher. I'm partial to the "City" and "SYL" albums. Incredible engineering and production -- an aural onslaught. The newer albums keep getting more and more vulgar which turns me off a bit when it gets that excessive, but jeez their playing is unreal. Probably the most impressive double-kick drumming I've ever heard. That man is a machine.

[Izegrim]

Hi guys,
I have just registered to give my opinion on this. I don't know much about drumming but I do know that versatility is more important here than how technical impressive it must sound. You all are aware of the limitations of Instant Drummer so you have to narrow down what's essential. First, I think it's important to look at what drumsound we need. There's usually a fair amount of compression going on and the kicks need to sound fat and have loads of attack to keep them clear in a mix of downtuned guitars. Second there are different time signatures used all through most songs in the heavier music. So it might be an idea to have more than one double kick drummer but maybe a pack with each a specialization like a 3/4 and 6/8 drummer, a blastbeat drummer, halftime or doubletime drummer, snare on upbeat or downbeat... at least, that's some things you need for a typical metal arrangement. I think that a well-produced, tight drumkit will please most of us but the tricky thing is that metal needs a lot of versatility in drumming. I will not need a drummer like George Kollias from Nile to put it in extremes but I could not live without the different time sigs or halftime, normal and double time drums as well as blastbeats. I hope I helped a bit.

Ize

[thunderdrums]

Artist - album - song

Fear Factory - demanufacture - demanufacture

Judas priest - painkiller - painkiller

Prong - cleansing - whose fist is it anyway (not double kick)

tool - opiate - sweat

van halen - 1984 - hot for teacher

fear factory - obsolete - shock

Judas Priest - stained class - exciter

Nickleback - the long road - flat on the floor

pantera - cowboys from hell - primal concrete sledge

fear factory -demanufacture - zero signal (aw heck just the whole album)