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Postby booyabrad » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:44 am

I upgraded to Riffworks standard 2 days ago. I have Reason Adapted. I open Riffworks and then Rewire checked and reason showing with my midi plugged in. I can play reason instruments and hear them and see their sound in riffworks but there in no recording them in riffworks. Why?
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Postby booyabrad » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:42 am

I have read all the messageboards I can take and this is the best I can figure: mix to riff then click rewire and record. when done, make it a wav file and then i will hear all the keyboards from reason. is that right? I can't get it to work. it crashes at the end of the riff/bounce (whatever it's called)--and I have the current .dll... Man, I am so tired of this. Riffworks is so awesome and rewire is so incredibly frustrating.
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Postby mickeymix » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:44 am

you have to sync the L-R sliders to each riff and it will play along .....but not record into the riff.....when you mix down to WAV, OGG or riffcast, it will then be in the mix ......hope that makes sense to you.
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Postby booyabrad » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:50 pm

You said I have to "sync the L-R sliders to each riff." How do I do that?
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Postby bluesydude » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:13 pm

Sync L-R sliders means if you you have a four bar measure in RW you position the L-R markers in Reason for the four bar measure you want to record in RW. In Reason you may have a piano piece beginning in measure 8 and you want to record that in RW. Place the L marker in Reason at measure 8. When you hit record in RW it will play measures 8-11 in Reason.

Clear as mud? :)

As Mickey said about recording, but you can also mix to riff and that will record your Reason sound into a riff. Good luck!
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Postby booyabrad » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:41 pm

I loaded riffworks, enabled rewire, loaded a riffworks song, mised to riff, opened reason, selected a synth; the L/R was already set up, so I hit record on Reason, but nothing showed up in reason as being recorded, so I hit record in riffworks. I played the keyboard parts, then it got to the end of the riff bounce and froze with an unhandled exception and loud buzzing. I disconnected and tried everything again. Same result. Can someone give me a detailed step-by-step process for how to do what i need to do?

I have Windows Vista, a Line 6 UX2, current version of standard riffworks (purchased sunday), and reason 4.0.1 (so I have the new .dll). I am either doing something obvious wrong or I have some other problem. Please help!
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Postby d3drocks » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:12 am

booyabrad wrote:I upgraded to Riffworks standard 2 days ago. I have Reason Adapted. I open Riffworks and then Rewire checked and reason showing with my midi plugged in. I can play reason instruments and hear them and see their sound in riffworks but there in no recording them in riffworks. Why?

your having issues, because riffworks does not handle rewire correctly, as just about every other app does. what it SHOULD be doing is syncing tempo, playback, and stop signals; and a few audio send tracks.
I say this as an owner of quite alot of rewire software, including melodyne, FL-Studio, Pro-Tools, Cubase, ableton, and reason.
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Postby booyabrad » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:45 pm

Can I make the song in Riffworks into a .wav file then import it into Reason and add the keyboards there?
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Postby booyabrad » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:52 pm

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!

1. open riffworks
2. open reason
3. open song in riffworks
4. check rewire
5. hit record in reason
5. play synth in reason
6. hit stop
7. mix to riff
8. drag new riff to song at top of riffworks
9. hit play and presto reason synth is in riffworks
10. repeat!

Thank you to all who responded!
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Postby d3drocks » Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:07 am

booyabrad wrote:7. mix to riff


this step shouldnt be needed. but, riffworks doesnt function properly with rewire, and since the staff wont comment...
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Postby randy » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:52 pm

d3drocks wrote:
booyabrad wrote:7. mix to riff


this step shouldnt be needed. but, riffworks doesnt function properly with rewire, and since the staff wont comment...


Wow, was this necessary? We've been on Thanksgiving holiday, which is the only reason we haven't commented until now.

ReWire functions just fine with RiffWorks. As it's been mentioned elsewhere in this post, you don't use RiffWorks to record ReWire audio. When you mix your song (not Riff) down, the audio from the ReWire slave is included in the mix. Each Riff corresponds to a specific part in the ReWire slave app. In Reason, you set each RiffWorks Riff to a specific loop point.

Agreed though, there's no need to mix to riff.
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Postby randy » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:58 pm

booyabrad wrote:I FIGURED IT OUT!!!

1. open riffworks
2. open reason
3. open song in riffworks
4. check rewire
5. hit record in reason
5. play synth in reason
6. hit stop
7. mix to riff
8. drag new riff to song at top of riffworks
9. hit play and presto reason synth is in riffworks
10. repeat!

Thank you to all who responded!


Close, but this won't allow you to create an entire song easily and you've added extra steps.

1. open riffworks
2. open reason
3. open song in riffworks
4. check rewire
5. select a riff in RiffWorks
6. Reason should automatically be set to loop a section of the Reason timeline that is the same length as the RiffWorks Riff.
7. Record something in reason (synth, drums, etc)
8. Select a different Riff in RiffWorks
9. Move the L loop slider in Reason to a different section of the Reason time line and record new stuff in Reason
10. repeat
11. hit song play in RiffWorks and watch as each Riff in RiffWorks corresponds with a unique loop point in Reason and 'magically' uses the Reason audio in the final saved song mix!

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Postby d3drocks » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:31 pm

Wow, was this necessary? We've been on Thanksgiving holiday, which is the only reason we haven't commented until now.


sorry, thanks giving is in october in canada. didnt know u had a holiday
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Postby sifteruk » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:59 pm

I followed the above instructions and can hear the sample play in riffworks, but when I then save the the riffworks file, exit reason and then play the riff (with the sample) I only hear drums...no sample.
So basically it only works if Reason is open. Appreciate this is probably something I'm doing wrong - can anyone help me out here?
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Postby JouniL » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:03 pm

Wow, point 6-11 was unknown for me! Excellent info. Until now I just recorded over the same bars and then in the mix I watched the timeline and muted the parts in the Reason mixer I didn't need, LOL! This made me so glad I need to post another great Buckethead clip :-)



6. Reason should automatically be set to loop a section of the Reason timeline that is the same length as the RiffWorks Riff.
7. Record something in reason (synth, drums, etc)
8. Select a different Riff in RiffWorks
9. Move the L loop slider in Reason to a different section of the Reason time line and record new stuff in Reason
10. repeat
11. hit song play in RiffWorks and watch as each Riff in RiffWorks corresponds with a unique loop point in Reason and 'magically' uses the Reason audio in the final saved song mix!
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