Line 6 users...POD Farm is coming soon!

[cwight]

Thanks Tom. Still seems more difficult and bit hit and miss and depends on your ears. On GB, with any echo unit, I could dial in the speed hit the synch and then select, from a range of presets that told me what I was dialling in. In Farm it expresses them as numbers. So for ex, if I use the analogue delay, and dial out all the modulation then set the BPM at 120. So I make sure synch is illuminated then say turn the time dial to the 12 point. It tells me it's at 333ms, and displays a note with a 3 next to it, but without knowing musical notation I don't know what this represents.....

So for example with a BPM of 120 I know that the Edge generally uses a dotted 8th time on his delay. That was easy to set up in GB I'm just wondering if any of the geniuses out there know what I need to be looking for when it's displayed in this format....Don't they know most guitar players don't read music?

[JouniL]

Colin, here is how to do it, goes for all delay models in Pod Farm (see my image):

1. Set the tempo (BPM)
2. Click the SYNC button
3. Set the feedback to minimum
4. Dial in the right Delay Timing (don't bother using numbers, it's just .... numbers, use the note symbol instead) using the chart below (right click to enlarge it).
5. Increase feedback until you get the number of repeats you wish. DONE!

[cwight]

That my man....how do you get that chart to appear? Right click doesn't do it, do I need to change something in the preferences? Wicked Jouni....

[JouniL]

In FireFox: Right click - Show Image

Or direct link:

http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp179/JouniLindqvist/Delay.jpg

[atalwar]

To check the difference in tones, just dial in one of your presents in Podfarm. The shut it down. Start gearbox and dial in the same tone and shut it down. Reopen the Farm with the same tone. Then just start gearbox. When I did this Gearbox took over and you could do a straight A/B test. Only problem was that after shutting down gearbox you have to restart the farm...Tones def better though, unless we are all going mad....

Colin i ran some of my tests of podfarm plugin vs gearbox plugin.

my test setup : generated from audacity a mono 48000Hz 24 bi t - 110 Hz sine wave and it's inverted copy(phase inverted).

in my daw (ableton live) loaded each wave into a seperate track. and assigned podfarm to one track and gear box to another.

If there has been no change in algorithms the sound should be exact silence as the both tracks simultaneously (with the same patches) should cancel each out (Assuming that both plugins exhibit same latency or report their latency to daw and is being taken care of (compensated)).

I tested few amp models (note I only tested dry without any fx and mods).

My end conclusion : not all amps sound different(especially line 6 own models). Some were exactly the same but others had significant differences (ranging from little bit of additional harmonics to eq shift and for some a lot of 2nd + 3rd order tones. One of my favorites the Hiwatt (hiway 100) did have some noticeable difference. These differences may or may not be due to any algorithm change (as L6 quoted there is no change) but due to other variables.

So i think it's fair assumption (and a fair upgrade) that the new pod farm plugin does sound different from the gearbox plugin and is just not the visuals or the new driver.


~amit

[cwight]

In FireFox: Right click - Show Image

Or direct link:

http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp179/JouniLindqvist/Delay.jpg

Thanks jouni, but I was asking how you get the image itself to come up for diff BPM within Podfarm, or did you make it yourself? There's no magic way to bring it up in Podfarm as a reminder I assume, so i need to memorise what each symbol means; is that right? I presume the numbers will change as the BPM changes....

[trikloretylen]

im starting to really like the pod farm have been experimenting all day!
and i have a big smile in my face!
now weres those extra packs at.i need them all!

[riffer7777]

i got it and.............................................................. bloody love it its awesome.love the new interface.ive had no trouble with gearbox due to the new software,to me its a million miles better than gearbox and i was glad to spend £31 on it.happy days are here again !!!

[pooterpatty]

I just installed PodFarm and all I can say is WOW! For anyone who's using a Line 6 hardware interface such as a GuitarPort or TonePort and is using the standalone GearBox for tone control, you MUST try PodFarm. The dual amp modeling and effects chains are incredible! I've always wanted to be able to combine a dirty Marshall with a clean Fender tone, now I can do it! Plus it looks like there's a few new effects models.

Unfortunately, this has convinced me that I now need a Pod X3L so I can get the same tones on stage. Damn you Line 6!

[blue4u]

So i think it's fair assumption (and a fair upgrade) that the new pod farm plugin does sound different from the gearbox plugin and is just not the visuals or the new driver.


~amit

Question REALLY is....do YOU think it sounds better? Which is more important...perception or reality? Hmmmmmmmm

[atalwar]

Which is more important...perception or reality? Hmmmmmmmm

perception of reality, i guess.

[Les]

For the big brains............ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics

[Wedgebill]

Amen Amit Amen

[blue4u]

OK then....

I perceive that there IS no stinkin' reality so, how you like 'dem bananas baby?!

Seriously though, I would be interested in having Amit test which models he (and others) think sound better (or worse) and find out if it's just perception OR....????

[jisg]

here's a long question for you atalwar - program genius that you are,
I would appreciate your attention to this post and any thoughts you may offer to help me out - if you would please and thank you...

Other than that the plugin just works fine.
if you have installed it correctly and its enabled in monkey you should be able to load the vst plugun in RW. if you don't see that, then copy the pod farm.dll file to your
vstplugins folder that RW references.

I posted this over on the Pod X3 forum 2 days ago:

I keep getting program crashes while attempting to use PodFarm.
I have an X3L. Never bought GearBox the Plugin.
I have done everything monkey asked for to upgrade, dl, activate...I open a recording program, open the VST folder, open PF spin the carousel, or open a presets folder and 30 seconds later...the big crash and an error report dialog box is generated that the program is closing. I have tried, RiffWorks Standard, ableton, and Reaper (now I've read since that that Reaper won't support it...something about a 64 bit engine won't shut off...???)RF is my main concern.
Here are the stats from the reports:

Error signature:
EventType : BEX P1 : P2 : 0.0.0.0 P3 : 00000000 P4 : unknown
P5 : 0.0.0.0 P6 : 00000000 P7 : 00000000 P8 : c0000409
P9 : 00000000

C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWERaaef.dir00Live 5.2.2.exe.mdmp
C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWERaaef.dir00appcompat.tx
ableton

Error signature:
EventType : BEX P1 : RiffWorksStandard.exe P2 : 2.2.1.2946
P3 : 48d05248 P4 : POD Farm.dll P5 : 1.0.0.0 P6 : 49024bc7
P7 : 0008009f P8 : c0000409 P9 : 00000000

C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWERfa4e.dir00RiffWorksStandard.exe.mdmp
C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWERfa4e.dir00appcompat.txt
Riffworks

Error signature:
EventType : BEX P1 : reaper.exe P2 : 2.0.1.1 P3 : 473a7d43
P4 : POD Farm.dll P5 : 1.0.0.0 P6 : 49024bc7 P7 : 0008009f
P8 : c0000409 P9 : 00000000

C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWER4a30.dir00reaper.exe.mdmp
C:DOCUME~1MARKCH~1LOCALS~1TempWER4a30.dir00appcompat.txt
Reaper

well - what the heck - you might as well read it all...here's a link to my post http://line6.com/support/thread.jspa?threadID=43803&tstart=50 ...

I have done everything they suggested and still get the same report message except that I have found that the DAW will not shut down if I ignore the report and don't click on send or close, but I don't really think I'm getting the true response out of PodFarm....just sort of the GUI but no changed audio and I'm not even trying to reamp - just trying to use it as a VST since it's free and looks COOL.

Do you have any ideas?
I am blue in the face with uninstalls and reinstalls (with all of the Line6 software I have going...EDIT, JavaBuster, Variax, WorkBench, XTL, X3L, Gearbox standalone) and can't figure what's so different about my 3 G RAM machine.

What about using a host...some of the guys are throwing that around with links to free host ware.

Thanks in advance if you can help!

Mark